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    Sen. Scarnati defies Pa. Supreme Court order to turn over map data in gerrymander cas

    Sen. Scarnati defies Pa. Supreme Court order to turn over map data in gerrymander case


    State Senate President Pro Tempore Joe Scarnati (R., Jefferson) said Wednesday he would not turn over any data requested by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court in the wake of the gerrymandering ruling that Republicans are fighting in the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Last week, the state high court ruled that Pennsylvania’s congressional map was the product of unconstitutional gerrymandering and ordered the General Assembly to submit files “that contain the current boundaries of all Pennsylvania municipalities and precincts” by noon Wednesday.

    In a letter to the court, Scarnati’s lawyers said he would not do so, repeating an argument they have made to the U.S. Supreme Court: The state court is overstepping its authority.

    “In light of the unconstitutionality of the Court’s Orders and the Court’s plain intent to usurp the General Assembly’s constitutionally delegated role of drafting Pennsylvania’s congressional districting plan, Sen. Scarnati will not be turning over any data identified in the Court’s Orders,” the lawyers wrote.

    In a separate filing, a lawyer for the General Assembly wrote that lawmakers do not have map files showing the current municipal boundaries because they are produced only once a decade as part of the redistricting process.

    “The General Assembly and its Legislative Data Processing Center do not maintain ESRI shape files that contain current boundaries of all Pennsylvania municipalities and precincts,” the letter reads.
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    Some follow-up on the Pennsylvania gerrymandering case. This one is state specific and not part of the Supreme Court of the United States' hearing on the issue. The Court could take it up, of course, since gerrymandering, along with voter suppression techniques, are necessary to ensure minority rule in this nation and thwart the political will of the citizens.

    I know I am probably the only wonk on this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Some follow-up on the Pennsylvania gerrymandering case. This one is state specific and not part of the Supreme Court of the United States' hearing on the issue. The Court could take it up, of course, since gerrymandering, along with voter suppression techniques, are necessary to ensure minority rule in this nation and thwart the political will of the citizens.

    I know I am probably the only wonk on this issue.
    You spelled wanker wrong.

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    Might as well move it to the BOC.
    "Everything wrong with America is manifested in Trump. The hunger for power, the vile derision of people who don’t look like you, the cruelty, the privilege, the gleeful ignorance, and mendacious narcissism. Our revulsion at Trump is causing Americans to ask: How did we get to this place? And how do we get out? That will take time and hard work by well-intentioned people from every corner of American society."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Sen. Scarnati defies Pa. Supreme Court order to turn over map data in gerrymander case


    State Senate President Pro Tempore Joe Scarnati (R., Jefferson) said Wednesday he would not turn over any data requested by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court in the wake of the gerrymandering ruling that Republicans are fighting in the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Last week, the state high court ruled that Pennsylvania’s congressional map was the product of unconstitutional gerrymandering and ordered the General Assembly to submit files “that contain the current boundaries of all Pennsylvania municipalities and precincts” by noon Wednesday.

    In a letter to the court, Scarnati’s lawyers said he would not do so, repeating an argument they have made to the U.S. Supreme Court: The state court is overstepping its authority.

    “In light of the unconstitutionality of the Court’s Orders and the Court’s plain intent to usurp the General Assembly’s constitutionally delegated role of drafting Pennsylvania’s congressional districting plan, Sen. Scarnati will not be turning over any data identified in the Court’s Orders,” the lawyers wrote.

    In a separate filing, a lawyer for the General Assembly wrote that lawmakers do not have map files showing the current municipal boundaries because they are produced only once a decade as part of the redistricting process.

    “The General Assembly and its Legislative Data Processing Center do not maintain ESRI shape files that contain current boundaries of all Pennsylvania municipalities and precincts,” the letter reads.
    Does the court have the right to do what its doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Might as well move it to the BOC.
    Yeah, cause there is absolutely no snark in this...

    since gerrymandering, along with voter suppression techniques, are necessary to ensure minority rule in this nation and thwart the political will of the citizens.
    Lord you are tiresome at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    Yeah, cause there is absolutely no snark in this...
    No. There isn't. And there wasn't anything personal, either.

    Lord you are tiresome at times.
    Sorry you got triggered by an opinion you don't share.
    "Everything wrong with America is manifested in Trump. The hunger for power, the vile derision of people who don’t look like you, the cruelty, the privilege, the gleeful ignorance, and mendacious narcissism. Our revulsion at Trump is causing Americans to ask: How did we get to this place? And how do we get out? That will take time and hard work by well-intentioned people from every corner of American society."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Some follow-up on the Pennsylvania gerrymandering case. This one is state specific and not part of the Supreme Court of the United States' hearing on the issue. The Court could take it up, of course, since gerrymandering, along with voter suppression techniques, are necessary to ensure minority rule in this nation and thwart the political will of the citizens.

    I know I am probably the only wonk on this issue.
    You might be surprised at how many "progressives" think that gerrymandering is why Republicans hold the Senate and the White House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    No. There isn't. And there wasn't anything personal, either.



    Sorry you got triggered by an opinion you don't share.
    Not triggered, merely humored. You have referred to and called anyone to the right of you that does not align with your political purity requirements everything but late for dinner for over a year. Iffin ya gonna dish it out, ya best be able to take it.

    I don't live in Pennsylvania. I don't really care how they draw their districts.
    I know how many Michigan districts have been gerrymandered to keep one side or the other, typically Democratics, in office from the mid 70's to the turn of the century.
    It is the process and the game.

    Have some hot cocoa and let it slide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    Not triggered, merely humored.
    Tiresome is an odd word to use for mirth.

    You have referred to and called anyone to the right of you that does not align with your political purity requirements everything but late for dinner for over a year. Iffin ya gonna dish it out, ya best be able to take it.
    Jeez, dude. You don't think I can take the bleating in this Trumpster safe-space?

    I don't live in Pennsylvania. I don't really care how they draw their districts.
    I know how many Michigan districts have been gerrymandered to keep one side or the other, typically Democratics, in office from the mid 70's to the turn of the century.
    It is the process and the game.

    Have some hot cocoa and let it slide.
    So you comment only on things happening in Michigan? That doesn't sound right.
    "Everything wrong with America is manifested in Trump. The hunger for power, the vile derision of people who don’t look like you, the cruelty, the privilege, the gleeful ignorance, and mendacious narcissism. Our revulsion at Trump is causing Americans to ask: How did we get to this place? And how do we get out? That will take time and hard work by well-intentioned people from every corner of American society."

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