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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    It is interesting how much you, personally, and so many others, take on the tics, traits, and rhetorical patterns of Trump. In this case, like the President, you reveal yourself with your accusations. It truly is an inchoate cult in this nation. That is both terrible and fascinating at the same time.
    You were wrong when you used "cult" in 2004 and you're wrong now.

    You are a one trick pony and it's pathetic.
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    Time will tell.

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    Scott too, apparently. Heís taken on Trumpís penchant for making shit up that didnít happen.
    The reason Trump succeeded isnít that complicated after all. He didnít win the nomination by tapping into some nascent political movement. He won by doing a fairly good impression of a right-wing media celebrity. Every issue, every conspiracy, every applause line has been ripped from their websites, radio shows, and television programs. Itís why he became Americaís most prominent birther. Itís why he floated rumors that Ted Cruzís dad killed JFK, and that Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster. Itís why he talks the way he does about Mexicans and Muslims and women and African Americans. Itís why heís been able to get away with knowing little to nothing about policy or government or world affairs ó because Trump, like any good talking head, only speaks in chyrons and clauses and some-people-are-sayings.

    Trumpís greatest trick has been to realize that right-wing media stars have a built-in audience that Republican politicians donít. To that audience, Jeb Bush talks like Washington talks. Ted Cruz talks like conservative ideologues talk. Marco Rubio talks like the last consultant he spoke with talks. But Trump talks like a true talk radio fan ó longtime listener, first-time caller. He comes off like the winner of a reality TV show in which one lucky Fox viewer gets picked to run for president of the United States.

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    Hilarious.

    Huge levies that increase the cost of goods from China are somehow horrible, a death knell to the United States economy. But vastly larger levies that greatly increase the cost of goods (and mostly services) from the United States in the form of doubling and tripling the minimum wage are somehow wonderful, even though the former actually improves wages in the United States and the latter actually eliminates jobs in the United States.
    Leftists have unquestionably demonstrated their hatred for due process, and Democrats have undeniably obstructed justice for, and thoroughly victim-shamed and smeared, Karen Monahan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    What was rejected was this direct quote from the article you posted:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Retaliatory Chinese tariffs on U.S. agricultural goods are hurting farmers, badly. Trump has allocated $12 billion to ease the economic pain of lost sales and may soon proffer more, using tariff money collected from China.
    You probably missed that because it's a direct quote and not twisted and distorted. "[T]ariff money collected from China" is not a metaphor. It's a lie.
    It wasn't the point of my posting that column, but you're right the wording is wrong. It likely should be:

    Retaliatory Chinese tariffs on U.S. agricultural goods are hurting farmers, badly. Trump has allocated $12 billion to ease the economic pain of lost sales and may soon proffer more, using tariff money collected on Chinese imports.

    The erroneous wording is entirely incidental to the thrust of the essay, and "lie" is a truly overwrought word to apply to an editor's mark. Your reply is true, as I've already said:
    Tariffs are not collected from China. Tariffs are collected from importers and paid by their customers.
    Just for good measure, China is looking to pay a steep price in this set-to, one I don't think they're in a position to handle.

    But they have three advantages at the moment.

    First, they don't have to care about the fate of their people.
    Second, they don't have screaming toddlers in their back seat. They just shoot them.
    Third, there seems to be (per the article) a concerted effort to coordinate resistance to US policy by several of our enemies, including NK and Iran, which magnifies their effect.
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    Billy posted:

    No. Itís not. There are no accounts filling with yuans used to pay tariffs. There are only dollars paid by importers of record.

    Trump lies. You cannot make his lies reality. No matter how hard you try. You can only make them delusions.
    Your right of course. The Chinese are not losing money. For the life of me, if this isn't costing them anything, I simply cannot figure out why they want the tariffs dropped?

    Lol.

    Reality is your friend Billy. Embrace it.

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