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    President May Invoke Insurrection Act to Remove Illegal Aliens

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    The Daily Caller spoke to multiple senior Administration officials who said President Trump is planning to use the Insurrection Act of 1807 to remove illegal aliens from the United States. The Act was last used by President George H.W. Bush to control the 1992 Los Angeles riots. President Dwight Eisenhower also used the Act in 1957 to desegregate schools in the south.

    The series of statutes that make up the Insurrection Act date back to the nation’s founding. It says, “Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.”

    This means, according University of Texas Law Professor Stephen Vladeck, that “if the president determines that ordinary law enforcement is inadequate to enforce federal law, he can deploy the military to assist. And although Congress in the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 generally prohibited use of the federal military for domestic law enforcement, the Insurrection Act was always understood as the principal exception to that general rule.”

    The Act has never been used to deal with an immigration matter so invoking it will produce legal challenges. However, “the text of the statute would seem to be on the president’s side,” Vladeck said, “underscoring just how broad the power is that Congress has delegated to the president.

    The Daily Caller reports the president is also considering declaring that the country is incapable of accepting additional asylum seekers. One source told The Caller, “If you take a ship and it holds 1,000 people maximum — one more person and the ship is going to collapse. The country is full. Our hospitals are full, our detention centers are full.”

    Until the president invokes the Insurrection Act, or Congress removes the loopholes driving asylum seekers, ICE will continue to release illegal aliens into the interior. Overcrowded detention facilities forced ICE to release 100,000 illegal aliens just between January and March of 2019. Some are now being flown to certain cities and dropped off at shelters. The Administration plans to hire a contractor to ramp up that effort nationwide.
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    Heck yeah. Use whatever. Wh6y not put the illegals on planes that drop them off in someplace like Siberia.

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    There is nothing about Gaza or Juarez that can't be fixed with a bulldozer.
    I'm thinking that once, in 1953, a group of interesting people just happened to be in a coffee shop at the same time and a great discussion of issues, ideas, and the meaning of life occurred. Since then we have been waiting at Starbucks for Lawrence Ferlinghetti to say something heavy.

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    So, any president can order the military after any group of people in the country that the president deems an insurrection. What could possibly go wrong?

    Priebus recalled that McGahn said that the President had asked him to "do crazy shit," but he thought McGahn did not tell him the specifics of the President's request because McGahn was trying to protect Priebus from what he did not need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    So, any president can order the military after any group of people in the country that the president deems an insurrection. What could possibly go wrong?
    Yes, you can order the military to rid the land of 11 million invaders.
    I'm thinking that once, in 1953, a group of interesting people just happened to be in a coffee shop at the same time and a great discussion of issues, ideas, and the meaning of life occurred. Since then we have been waiting at Starbucks for Lawrence Ferlinghetti to say something heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    Yes, you can order the military to rid the land of 11 million invaders.
    Let us assume this is legal. My guess is that it isn't, but let's assume it is.

    How does the military go about finding and deporting these 11 million people? How do they do so without trampling on their rights and those of 300 million citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Marva View Post
    Heck yeah. Use whatever. Wh6y not put the illegals on planes that drop them off in someplace like Siberia.
    As satisfying as letting these illegal aliens experience gulag life for a while would be, we're still bound to return them to one of two places, by law: the originating country (which gets problematic for people who crossed a land border) or their home country.

    Back when everyone was all bent about rendition, the Left howled and bemoaned some guy who was deported at JFK because he didn't have the appropriate visa or some such. He was a Canadian citizen, but Canada refused to take him back because he was on a terrorist watch-list there, so he was instead returned to his point of origin: Jordan (I think; may have been Egypt). Once there, the local government took the guy into custody and held him for a couple of years and "interrogated" him. Somehow, even though the law only allows for one of two things to happen to deportees, and that has been the law for many, many years, it was all George Bush's fault that this dumbass showed up at JFK without the proper documentation.
    Leftists have unquestionably demonstrated their hatred for due process, and Democrats have undeniably obstructed justice for, and thoroughly victim-shamed and smeared, Karen Monahan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    Let us assume this is legal. My guess is that it isn't, but let's assume it is.
    Obviously, it's quite legal, as it has been used by multiple Presidents in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    How does the military go about finding and deporting these 11 million people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    How do they do so without trampling on their rights and those of 300 million citizens?
    I think that we can probably manage without quartering soldiers in people's homes.

    We can start with actually removing illegal aliens when they are arrested for other crimes, rather than sneaking them out the back door of a courthouse.
    Leftists have unquestionably demonstrated their hatred for due process, and Democrats have undeniably obstructed justice for, and thoroughly victim-shamed and smeared, Karen Monahan.

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    Trump is taking the "break glass in case of emergency" provisions of laws and using them as a means to enact partisan policy preferences (or in the case of the so-called "Wall," assuaging the pique of a narcissistic child). That toothpaste ain't going back in the tube anytime soon.
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    Translation: Trump is now doing something about what even Democrats, after a period of denial, are agreeing is a crisis and emergency on our southern border, but Democrats still desperately need those illegal alien and incarcerated felon votes, so they don't quite know what to do.
    Leftists have unquestionably demonstrated their hatred for due process, and Democrats have undeniably obstructed justice for, and thoroughly victim-shamed and smeared, Karen Monahan.

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