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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    NPR, like virtually every media outlet today, frames it's viewpoints through language choices and editorial selection.
    There's the ubiquitous attempt to invalidate the concept of a neutral arbiter in news reporting.

    We will never hear a NPR opinion piece lamenting the problems of wage stagnation and unfair competition due to illegal alien workers (and the people who hire them) in the trades. It won't happen. Instead we'll get a piece about how Juan or Maria are illegally working for a substandard wage due to the evil white boss who flouts the law (well, duh).

    We won't hear stories about Obamacare people who have enormous difficulties getting access and treatment nor about the many Medicaid patients who hate that system.

    We won't get stories about why Inner City Public School #1 has literacy rates of 10% but Charter School #2 in the same area has students who meet or exceed state averages on all measures.

    NPR will not run a piece discussing the fact that air, soil, and water in the USA now exceeds the purity standards the EU uses. It will not run a piece discussing the psychological and health advantages religious married couples enjoy. It will not run a piece denouncing the attacks on free speech on many college campuses. And it goes on.

    You manage news even more by what you omit than by what you report.
    You clearly don't listen to NPR. You need to get out of your bubble. I get that it reinforces and affirms your beliefs as well as your world view, and that is a hard thing to give up, but interacted with only the like minded has been shown to cause extremism.

    And what the hell is "Obamacare people"?
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    It is acceptable to use the phrase "anti-abortion rights," but do not use the term "pro-abortion rights"

    That seems odd to me.Why is one acceptable but the other is not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    It is acceptable to use the phrase "anti-abortion rights," but do not use the term "pro-abortion rights"

    That seems odd to me.Why is one acceptable but the other is not?
    I thought calling someone, or a group, "pro-abortion" was done by anti-abortion groups or advocates; that it was a epithet used by the anti-abortion movement. While there is probably a person or group out there that embraces "pro-abortion," I would be surprised if it were a mainstream group advocating for reproductive rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    I thought calling someone, or a group, "pro-abortion" was done by anti-abortion groups or advocates; that it was a epithet used by the anti-abortion movement. While there is probably a person or group out there that embraces "pro-abortion," I would be surprised if it were a mainstream group advocating for reproductive rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    That's why NPR is the best. They play it straight and strive for dispassionate impartiality. It is also why the right wing hates them.
    Nothing says dispassionate impartiality like saying you're pregnant with a fetus until the day the fetus is born and then graduates to being a baby!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele View Post
    Nothing says dispassionate impartiality like saying you're pregnant with a fetus until the day the fetus is born and then graduates to being a baby!
    Er .... yeah. Exactly. Thatís what a fetus is.

    Iím not sure where you are going with this. They are too dispassionate and come off as clinical?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    You are kind of all over the place, there. Can you try to be more cogent? Are you lauding them for their impartiality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    NPR, like virtually every media outlet today, frames it's viewpoints through language choices and editorial selection.

    We will never hear a NPR opinion piece lamenting the problems of wage stagnation and unfair competition due to illegal alien workers (and the people who hire them) in the trades. It won't happen. Instead we'll get a piece about how Juan or Maria are illegally working for a substandard wage due to the evil white boss who flouts the law (well, duh).

    We won't hear stories about Obamacare people who have enormous difficulties getting access and treatment nor about the many Medicaid patients who hate that system.

    We won't get stories about why Inner City Public School #1 has literacy rates of 10% but Charter School #2 in the same area has students who meet or exceed state averages on all measures.

    NPR will not run a piece discussing the fact that air, soil, and water in the USA now exceeds the purity standards the EU uses. It will not run a piece discussing the psychological and health advantages religious married couples enjoy. It will not run a piece denouncing the attacks on free speech on many college campuses. And it goes on.

    You manage news even more by what you omit than by what you report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    It is acceptable to use the phrase "anti-abortion rights," but do not use the term "pro-abortion rights"

    That seems odd to me.Why is one acceptable but the other is not?
    "Pro-choice" means that you prefer that women have the option of safe and legal abortion. "Pro-abortion" means that you prefer that women choose abortion. There might be a few people like that if you look hard enough, but it doesn't apply to most abortion rights supporters. "Anti-abortion" means that you prefer women do not (or cannot) choose abortion.

    There is a bit of ambiguity in the phrase "pro-abortion rights". It could be taken to mean "in favor of abortion rights", or it could be taken to mean the rights of people who promote abortion.

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    Er .... yeah. Exactly. Thatís what a fetus is.

    Iím not sure where you are going with this. They are too dispassionate and come off as clinical?
    Most people in the media who are pro-choice speak that way. Most normal everyday people recognize that women do not say they're pregnant with a fetus. So, it must be NPR's audience that they're playing to.

    It's the same reason that abortion is called a choice or women's reproductive rights/health. Abortion isn't a pretty word because of what it is which is the killing of a most vulnerable human being. Obviously, some need to make themselves feel better by not using it. Although for the pro-abortion people ie those who advocate that a baby isn't a baby until it's born so no worries about aborting it, wording only matters as a softer catchphrase for the general public.
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