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Thread: NPR's Guidance Reminder: On Abortion Procedures, Terminology & Rights

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    Okay, I see. They are unbiased and you wish them to be biased on this issue in your favor.
    "[N]o one gives a shit about science and reality. I regularly get people telling me on the Twitter machine that liberals support murdering newborns. That's where the conversation on abortion is right now for too fucking many Americans. In other words, there is no conversation. When people wholeheartedly believe something that is completely, patently, blatantly untrue, your puny facts aren't going to put a dent in that level of delusional stupidity."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele View Post
    Most normal everyday people recognize that women do not say they're pregnant with a fetus.


    I don't see mothers as the standard of objectivity when it comes to their children. Nor would I want them to be.

    Priebus recalled that McGahn said that the President had asked him to "do crazy shit," but he thought McGahn did not tell him the specifics of the President's request because McGahn was trying to protect Priebus from what he did not need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele View Post
    Abortion isn't a pretty word because of what it is which is the killing of a most vulnerable human being. Obviously, some need to make themselves feel better by not using it.
    How is a small clump of undifferentiated cells a "human being"? Is it an abortion if the cells die in a test tube or petri dish?

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    I've known a lot of pregnant women over the years and not one ever referred to her baby as a "fetus".

    Nobody does that. Even women getting abortions understand that they are aborting babies. "Fetus" is a medical/media term that is rarely used in real life except jokingly. The Latin means "offspring" but it isn't a specific term. Nonetheless, "offspring" means infant of X parents (people, horses, sheep, etc.), it doesn't mean tumors, parasites, or weird growths. There are other Latin terms for all that.

    Nobody ever rushed up excitedly and said, "Here's a picture of our fetus!". Or, "Our fetus isn't in the right position". Nobody says, "Sadly, we lost our fetus".

    People all know intuitively that it's a baby.

    Using what amounts to weasel words hasn't changed anybody's mind over the past 50 years so there's little point in using them now.
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Using what amounts to weasel words hasn't changed anybody's mind over the past 50 years so there's little point in using them now.
    Because men use them as words to make laws to control women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Okay, I see. They are unbiased and you wish them to be biased on this issue in your favor.
    You try so hard...it must be conflicting.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    I don't see mothers as the standard of objectivity when it comes to their children. Nor would I want them to be.
    I don't see NPR being the standard of objectivity when it comes to any child, born or unborn.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    It is acceptable to use the phrase "anti-abortion rights," but do not use the term "pro-abortion rights"

    That seems odd to me.Why is one acceptable but the other is not?
    Just as abortion needed to be changed to "choice" so as to try to soften the harshness of it, the term pro-life needed to be changed because, you know, most pro-life people only care about the baby fetus in the womb and they hope for it to die after it's born. You've heard it and have seen it on here by a couple of members.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele View Post
    Just as abortion needed to be changed to "choice" so as to try to soften the harshness of it, the term pro-life needed to be changed because, you know, most pro-life people only care about the baby fetus in the womb and they hope for it to die after it's born. You've heard it and have seen it on here by a couple of members.
    They don't use "pro-choice" either.

    I don't get this. There are plenty of propaganda places for your affirmation you can listen to/read/watch. Why bag on NPR? Can we people who like accurate, unbiased information have a source? Does it all have to be propaganda all the time?
    "[N]o one gives a shit about science and reality. I regularly get people telling me on the Twitter machine that liberals support murdering newborns. That's where the conversation on abortion is right now for too fucking many Americans. In other words, there is no conversation. When people wholeheartedly believe something that is completely, patently, blatantly untrue, your puny facts aren't going to put a dent in that level of delusional stupidity."

    ~ RP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    I've known a lot of pregnant women over the years and not one ever referred to her baby as a "fetus".
    Yeah, and I've known a lot of guys over the years and it is exceedingly rare they call their member a "penis" but that doesn't mean NPR should start calling it a dick.
    "[N]o one gives a shit about science and reality. I regularly get people telling me on the Twitter machine that liberals support murdering newborns. That's where the conversation on abortion is right now for too fucking many Americans. In other words, there is no conversation. When people wholeheartedly believe something that is completely, patently, blatantly untrue, your puny facts aren't going to put a dent in that level of delusional stupidity."

    ~ RP

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