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    A couple of years ago I remember reading of a prank in which kids planted hundreds (thousands?) of plastic forks in the school grounds.

    I don't remember if there was much huffing and puffing about the trouble with kids today, but I also specifically don't recall anyone noticing that the kids were saying, "High School is done. Stick a fork in it." More's the pity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    He said those involved would have to pay for it, not necessarily the whole senior class.

    I imagine it caused some overtime for the janitorial staff, and that's unfortunate that their time was spent having to fix this. But overall, it's a small prank. The class ahead of me burned down the equipment shed on the athletic field.

    Another class spray painted "Teenage Wasteland" on the front of the brick building, causing a lot of monetary damage for the repair.
    I think the bigger issue is that we've criminalized adolescence, even as we artificially prolong it. Things that were common senior pranks when my parents and even slightly older friends were teens had already become "vandalism" by the time I graduated. The educational establishment infantilizes near-adults, but has lost all sense of humor and proportion over teen-age hijinks.

    Consider the lyrics of this nostalgic (even when I was a teen) popular song:

    "The New Year's Eve we did the town
    The day we tore the goal post down
    We'll have these moments to remember."

    Every year the jocks painted the bridge on the Potomac: "Go St John's - Beat Gonzaga!" Now it's graffiti/vandalism.

    The schools used to steal each other's mascots (they were always returned...eventually).

    The boys from my 9th-grade class put the popular biology teacher's brand new 'Vette on the roof of the shed. Today they would be charged with grand theft auto. Then, he told them to get it down without a scratch or he would get all their parents to enroll them in summer school.

    It would be nice if we would give the schools back the right and the means to enforce appropriate behavior daily during school hours, exclude the actual criminals, and require them to have a little perspective about end-of-year pranks and other essentially harmless incidents of blowing off steam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    I think the bigger issue is that we've criminalized adolescence, even as we artificially prolong it. Things that were common senior pranks when my parents and even slightly older friends were teens had already become "vandalism" by the time I graduated. The educational establishment infantilizes near-adults, but has lost all sense of humor and proportion over teen-age hijinks.

    Consider the lyrics of this nostalgic (even when I was a teen) popular song:

    "The New Year's Eve we did the town
    The day we tore the goal post down
    We'll have these moments to remember."

    Every year the jocks painted the bridge on the Potomac: "Go St John's - Beat Gonzaga!" Now it's graffiti/vandalism.

    The schools used to steal each other's mascots (they were always returned...eventually).

    The boys from my 9th-grade class put the popular biology teacher's brand new 'Vette on the roof of the shed. Today they would be charged with grand theft auto. Then, he told them to get it down without a scratch or he would get all their parents to enroll them in summer school.

    It would be nice if we would give the schools back the right and the means to enforce appropriate behavior daily during school hours, exclude the actual criminals, and require them to have a little perspective about end-of-year pranks and other essentially harmless incidents of blowing off steam.


    Funny how times have changed. In the early 1900's here, boys would put a stick of dynamite in the manure pile on the town square.

    Can you imagine that today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    I think the bigger issue is that we've criminalized adolescence, even as we artificially prolong it. Things that were common senior pranks when my parents and even slightly older friends were teens had already become "vandalism" by the time I graduated. The educational establishment infantilizes near-adults, but has lost all sense of humor and proportion over teen-age hijinks.

    Consider the lyrics of this nostalgic (even when I was a teen) popular song:

    "The New Year's Eve we did the town
    The day we tore the goal post down
    We'll have these moments to remember."

    Every year the jocks painted the bridge on the Potomac: "Go St John's - Beat Gonzaga!" Now it's graffiti/vandalism.

    The schools used to steal each other's mascots (they were always returned...eventually).

    The boys from my 9th-grade class put the popular biology teacher's brand new 'Vette on the roof of the shed. Today they would be charged with grand theft auto. Then, he told them to get it down without a scratch or he would get all their parents to enroll them in summer school.

    It would be nice if we would give the schools back the right and the means to enforce appropriate behavior daily during school hours, exclude the actual criminals, and require them to have a little perspective about end-of-year pranks and other essentially harmless incidents of blowing off steam.

    I agree with your post but I also find it interesting that in the same timeframe where the "pranks" became crimes many parents would now lie and cover up for their children instead of making them stand responsible for their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    I think the bigger issue is that we've criminalized adolescence, even as we artificially prolong it. Things that were common senior pranks when my parents and even slightly older friends were teens had already become "vandalism" by the time I graduated. The educational establishment infantilizes near-adults, but has lost all sense of humor and proportion over teen-age hijinks.

    Consider the lyrics of this nostalgic (even when I was a teen) popular song:

    "The New Year's Eve we did the town
    The day we tore the goal post down
    We'll have these moments to remember."

    Every year the jocks painted the bridge on the Potomac: "Go St John's - Beat Gonzaga!" Now it's graffiti/vandalism.

    The schools used to steal each other's mascots (they were always returned...eventually).
    I think we're approaching consensus. The principal in this hallway-stuffing incident misfired in his reaction.

    Compare this story of yours:
    The boys from my 9th-grade class put the popular biology teacher's brand new 'Vette on the roof of the shed. Today they would be charged with grand theft auto. Then, he told them to get it down without a scratch or he would get all their parents to enroll them in summer school.
    The boys are held accountable to undo their handiwork (without a scratch), given an "or else" and a deadline (summer school would begin in...), and I presume from your telling, no further consequence. Anticipating all that, I doubt the culprits tried to remain undiscovered.

    What I didn't like about the current incident is that there seemed to be an expectation by the kids (and at least one parent) that someone else would clean up their mess.

    And I found the principal's suggestion of a fine, to pay for someone else to clean up their mess, no better at all.

    It would be nice if we would give the schools back the right and the means to enforce appropriate behavior daily during school hours, exclude the actual criminals, and require them to have a little perspective about end-of-year pranks and other essentially harmless incidents of blowing off steam.
    Often pranks become tradition, like the mascot swiping, and no harm is expected. The mascots aren't slaughtered, for example. Some colleges like my own alma mater have designated sites for graffiti. At Oberlin it was (is?) a particular rock in the town square.

    It takes a lot of mutually understood boundaries to enjoy those traditions, exactly as you say, and recover our sense of humor and tolerance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    I think the bigger issue is that we've criminalized adolescence, even as we artificially prolong it.
    This.

    1000% this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    I think we're approaching consensus. The principal in this hallway-stuffing incident misfired in his reaction.

    Compare this story of yours:


    The boys are held accountable to undo their handiwork (without a scratch), given an "or else" and a deadline (summer school would begin in...), and I presume from your telling, no further consequence. Anticipating all that, I doubt the culprits tried to remain undiscovered.

    What I didn't like about the current incident is that there seemed to be an expectation by the kids (and at least one parent) that someone else would clean up their mess.

    And I found the principal's suggestion of a fine, to pay for someone else to clean up their mess, no better at all.


    Often pranks become tradition, like the mascot swiping, and no harm is expected. The mascots aren't slaughtered, for example. Some colleges like my own alma mater have designated sites for graffiti. At Oberlin it was (is?) a particular rock in the town square.

    It takes a lot of mutually understood boundaries to enjoy those traditions, exactly as you say, and recover our sense of humor and tolerance.
    Well not to bring "big government" into this too much but I did notice a change when pranks became criminalized at about the same time high schools outsourced discipline to local Police.
    "What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    I think the bigger issue is that we've criminalized adolescence, even as we artificially prolong it. Things that were common senior pranks when my parents and even slightly older friends were teens had already become "vandalism" by the time I graduated. The educational establishment infantilizes near-adults, but has lost all sense of humor and proportion over teen-age hijinks.

    Consider the lyrics of this nostalgic (even when I was a teen) popular song:

    "The New Year's Eve we did the town
    The day we tore the goal post down
    We'll have these moments to remember."

    Every year the jocks painted the bridge on the Potomac: "Go St John's - Beat Gonzaga!" Now it's graffiti/vandalism.

    The schools used to steal each other's mascots (they were always returned...eventually).

    The boys from my 9th-grade class put the popular biology teacher's brand new 'Vette on the roof of the shed. Today they would be charged with grand theft auto. Then, he told them to get it down without a scratch or he would get all their parents to enroll them in summer school.

    It would be nice if we would give the schools back the right and the means to enforce appropriate behavior daily during school hours, exclude the actual criminals, and require them to have a little perspective about end-of-year pranks and other essentially harmless incidents of blowing off steam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramps View Post
    When I was a freshman, we put a prof's vw beetle up a flight stairs on the main entrance of the Juco I was enrolled attending. 35 steps to the landing.
    If he could get into it, he could simply drive it down the stairs.

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