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    Trump Invites Pence to Stay at His Place—Then Hands Taxpayers the Bill

    Trump Invites Pence to Stay at His Place—Then Hands Taxpayers the Bill

    The president suggested that Vice President Mike Pence and his retinue spend tens of thousands of dollars at his golf resort in Ireland.


    In Brigadoon, the Lerner-Loewe musical, an American travels to Scotland and finds a chance to win the affection of a girl in a village that appears for only one day every 100 years. This is not to be confused with Doonbeg, the political drama of the week, in which an American travels to Ireland and finds a chance to win the affection of his president.

    Vice President Mike Pence and his retinue—including members of his family, his aides, and his Secret Service detail—are on a trip to Europe this week, and they will be staying at Doonbeg, Donald Trump’s golf resort on the west coast of Ireland. While he’s on the Emerald Isle, Pence will participate in a set of meetings in Dublin, on the east coast. To attend those meetings, Pence will fly more than an hour each way.

    That sounds inconvenient for Pence, but it’s convenient for Trump, whose business will pocket payments for the accommodations—a Pence aide didn’t have an estimate, but a conservative guess is tens of thousands of dollars. Trump has so frequently used the power of the presidency to plump for his businesses that the public has almost become inured to it, but it remains brazenly corrupt and shameless.

    Complaining about the cost of official travel is an old and tired tradition in which both parties indulge while in the opposition and dismiss as petty while governing. The problem here is less the overall tab than where it’s going and how it got there. Not only does the president often visit his own properties and charge the government—that is, you and me—but here he has directed the vice president to do the same. (Pence will reportedly pay for his mother’s and sister’s share of the bill out of pocket, which means that not only will he be directing government funds into one of the president’s properties, but he’ll be handing over some of his own cash too.)

    “I don’t think it was a request, like a command,” Marc Short, Pence’s chief of staff, told reporters. “I think that it was a suggestion. It’s like, ‘Well, you should stay at my place.’”

    Yet what could the vice president do? He was in no position to refuse Trump’s suggestion, which Short valiantly tried to spin as a generous offer. But, of course, Trump was not inviting Pence to stay at his home as a guest. The president could have comped the stay as a gesture of magnanimity, or he could have discouraged it to avoid the conflict of interest, but instead, he invited Pence to spend thousands of dollars to benefit Trump. It’s a double victory for the president, because he reaps not only the cash from the stay, but also the free publicity for the resort. As the president has demonstrated in the past, he is extremely attuned to the nebulous art of enhancing brand value.

    Pence has strong family ties to Doonbeg, where his great-grandmother lived. He said few facilities in the area could accommodate the logistical needs of his entourage—but other presidents and vice presidents have visited Ireland and found places to stay. Willing or not, Pence is already an accomplice in lining Trump’s pockets. As the Daily Beast reports, Pence’s PAC has spent more than $200,000 at Trump properties since 2017.
    “Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.”

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    We are out of "Imagine the Republican howl if Obama did this" territory and into "Imagine the Republican howl if Bush did this" - land.
    “Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.”

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    Maybe if Pence called it "date night" it would be okay.
    Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    Maybe if Pence called it "date night" it would be okay.
    That's not even a mole hill. That's a non-sequitur. To do false equivalence, you have to at least make it close to being marginally the same.
    “Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.”

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    That's where Obama went wrong. He didn't turn a personal profit. He should have had the government buy a few thousand copies of his book and give them out.

    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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    I've asked people all over the internet to demonstrate that Trump is charging for this stay. To date, no one has been able to provide any evidence to this effect.
    Leftists have unquestionably demonstrated their hatred for due process, and Democrats have undeniably obstructed justice for, and thoroughly victim-shamed and smeared, Karen Monahan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    That's where Obama went wrong. He didn't turn a personal profit. He should have had the government buy a few thousand copies of his book and give them out.
    I figured The Clinton Foundation would be the better whatabout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    I've asked people all over the internet to demonstrate that Trump is charging for this stay. To date, no one has been able to provide any evidence to this effect.
    Comp everyone but Pence’s mother? What s dick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    I figured The Clinton Foundation would be the better whatabout.
    Lincoln Bedroom! :shakefist:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    I've asked people all over the internet to demonstrate that Trump is charging for this stay. To date, no one has been able to provide any evidence to this effect.
    Why would they be any different than Mar-a-Lago?

    We identified about $60,000 in expenses paid to Mar-a-Lago for these
    four trips.20 DOD lodging expenses of about $24,000 were within GSA
    limits of 300 percent of the per diem rate. DHS expenses of about
    $36,000 were for space required by the Secret Service for operational
    purposes. The legal authorities that the Secret Service relied on to pay for
    these kinds of rooms do not limit how much the agency can pay;
    however, none of the rooms used to meet operational security standards
    exceeded the maximum allowed under the FTR’s actual expense
    reimbursement method.21
    - GAO report (pdf) -

    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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