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    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    But he's right. China is able to do this because they have significant economic power and the companies want to make more profit. Nothing wrong with that, but its pure unprincipled capitalism.
    This is where I think you and Bok have this wrong. Only in isolation from other factors is the government of China engaging in capitalism. The real world doesn't work that way and China is far from capitalist. Governments are not supposed to be participants in the markets they regulate and China is playing both sides and controlling the means of production. That's not capitalism, it's Communism.
    "What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    A. That's not in any definition I know of.
    You've demonstrated your ignorance.

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    B.Capitalists have always taken any advantage they could with workers
    False

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    C. You still haven't gotten that I am talking about the caving corporations, not the Chinese government
    Still not capitalism.
    "What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Marva View Post
    Spoken from the 'worker" who gets three months a year vacation while being paid for an entire 12 months of easy-peasy "work".
    Public schools are not a capitalist endeavor, they are a socialist endeavor. So, congrats and making the point that socialism rewards the workers better than capitalism does, I guess?

    Quote Originally Posted by scott View Post
    This is where I think you and Bok have this wrong. Only in isolation from other factors is the government of China engaging in capitalism. The real world doesn't work that way and China is far from capitalist. Governments are not supposed to be participants in the markets they regulate and China is playing both sides and controlling the means of production. That's not capitalism, it's Communism.
    The complaints about capitalism aren't referencing the government of China; they have to do with American organizations like the NBA, Vans and all our tech companies rolling over to placate the communists because it's better for their bottom lines. They are literally putting profit ahead of America's guiding principles of freedom and democracy.

    I would think that freedom loving conservatives would not be bending over backwards to defend the communist Chinese, but these are strange times we live in. American companies are self-censoring themselves to American audiences to not anger a bunch of damn foreigners. How is this in any way morally or ethically right?

    It's sad that the only ones who had the temerity to stand up to the communist Chinese government was South Park. Not that anyone in China will ever see that episode, since the Great Firewall has scrubbed its presence from Chinese internet completely.
    You can't spell "hatred" without "red hat".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Public schools are not a capitalist endeavor, they are a socialist endeavor. So, congrats and making the point that socialism rewards the workers better than capitalism does, I guess?
    Interesting points. And socialism "rewards the workers" better than the consumer. The consumer here being the student, I think.

    . . . [no] opportunity exists for us to deal with the most serious, most fundamental threat to our way of life, namely our thoroughly rotten educational establishment.

    The problem has been festering for decades, and keeps getting worse.

    During Word War II, only 4 percent of some 18 million draftees were illiterate. Despite (or because?) of massive expenditures on education over the subsequent two decades, 27 percent of the Vietnam war’s draftees were judged functionally illiterate. Between 1955 and 1991, the inflation-adjusted average K-12 per-pupil expenditure in America rose 350 percent. In 1972, 2,817 students scored 750 or better on each half of the SAT. By 1994, only 1,438 made this score though the test had been made easier. Today, U.S. 15 year olds rank 24th out of 71 countries in science, and 38th in math. In 2018, college students spent less than a third of the time their grandparents did studying for their classes.

    But as the bell-curve of intellectual achievement continues to shift leftward, the bell curve of school grades continues to shift rightward. Increasingly, the default grade in America is “A.” Among all classes and races, some seventy percent of U.S students report having cheated on exams or papers. No one should be surprised at the American people’s increasing incompetence and inability to follow directions—never mind arguments.

    This past week, the noise from Washington drowned out three items of news that remind us of how corrupt and dumbed down American education has become, how far into society the rot has spread and how much it would take to remedy it.
    This article spun from the court decision validating racial and ethnic discrimination in college admissions,
    Harvard University hailed Judge Allison D. Burroughs’s decision that it had not really, really, discriminated against Asian applicants. The judge did not think it discriminatory that Harvard invited applications from Asian males only if they scored above 1380 out of 1400 on the PSAT, to Asian females only if they got over 1350, to white males only if over 1310, and admitted black students who were barely above the national average of 1000. Nearly all other American institutions of higher education do similar things.
    but the parlous state of our public education system is less a mystery for your aperçu.
    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff, explaining the Green New Deal for the hard of hearing.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    When you were a teacher, did you disregard the "consumers?"
    I know that I try very hard to give good value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Public schools are not a capitalist endeavor, they are a socialist endeavor. So, congrats and making the point that socialism rewards the workers better than capitalism does, I guess?
    Well, okay, guess that's acceptable given it's all the same for everyone and every student must be given exactly the same.

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    Getting back to the original subject of the thread for a moment, Apple has now joined in the NBA is putting profits ahead of American values.

    First, they removed an app that allowed protesters to track where the protests were being held and pinpoint police action areas.

    Next, they pulled Quartz from the Chinese app store because of their unflattering coverage of the Chinese government.

    Now, they've actually gone and yanked the Taiwanese flag from the list of emojis on phones in Hong Kong and Macao.
    You can't spell "hatred" without "red hat".

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