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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    There is no other plausible reason for exposing the whistleblower. Either kill him/her or ruin his/her life and send a message to other potential whistleblowers.
    Expose that he was an Obama staffer with an agenda beyond the rule of law?

    Demonstrate Schiff being full of Schiff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    Are you willing to argue that publicly exposing the name and identity of a CIA agent does not constitute "reprisal"? What effect do you think public exposure has on the career track of a CIA agent?
    Ahem.

    CIA "agent?"

    Um, no. He's an analyst and not on any kind of "career track." He's a political guy.

    Also, Schiff outed him anyway.

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...rs-transcript/
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott View Post
    Ahem.

    CIA "agent?"

    Um, no. He's an analyst and not on any kind of "career track." He's a political guy.

    Also, Schiff outed him anyway.

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...rs-transcript/
    Okay, so "officer". And how do you justify a claim that an officer assigned to the White House is not on a career track?

    Your claim that Schiff outed him doesn't hold water. The Taylor transcript was released on Nov. 6. It does not say that that guy is the whistleblower. It only says that Steve Castor asked Ambassador Taylor if he communicated with that guy (for reasons Steve Castor does not explain). And your own source says:
    Members of the conservative media have been publishing the alleged whistleblower’s name ever since investigative journalist Paul Sperry’s October 31st report which clearly named Ciaramella. His name began appearing on some conservative websites in early October.
    That is prior to the release of the Taylor transcript.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott View Post
    Expose that he was an Obama staffer with an agenda beyond the rule of law?

    Demonstrate Schiff being full of Schiff?
    None of that (even assuming it's true) negates what we know from the phone memo, and from the testimony of Sondland, Volker, Taylor, McKinsley, and Yovanovitch. So the only plausible reason remains retribution.

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    Wrong Whistleblower

    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post

    [T]he fired whistleblower was the person who slipped out the actual evidence (not hearsay) that the Epstein story was spiked by [ABC] in 2016, when it would have embarrassed Hilary Clinton. I suspect George Snuffleupagus was involved.

    CBS fires former ABC staffer who blew whistle on network spiking Epstein accuser interview: report

    Be careful what whistle you blow.
    Allahpundit at HotAir:

    “The leaker’s still inside”: Fired CBS staffer tells Megyn Kelly that she didn’t leak the Amy Robach/Epstein ABC footage
    The staffer, producer Ashley Bianco, admits to having accessed the Robach footage on the day that it happened and marked it in ABC’s internal system, making it easy to find. But sharing it with Project Veritas? Nope, wasn’t her. If the firing offense here was supposedly airing a network’s dirty laundry — not her current network’s laundry, mind you, but ABC’s — then Bianco was wrongfully terminated. Assuming she’s telling the truth.
    Coincidentally, Project Veritas published a post a few hours ago apparently written by its source entitled, “Why I, alone, released the Amy Robach Epstein tape.” It appears to corroborate Bianco’s claim that she didn’t leak it, although no names are used.

    Editors Note: Project Veritas is publishing the writing below at the request of the ABC news insider who gave us the Amy Robach tape.

    This was submitted to us in light of the actions taken by CBS News to fire the female staffer who had access to the tape, and to the reactions of ABC news to revelations by Amy Robach spiking of the story on Jeffrey Epstein.…


    To those wrongfully accused:

    It is terrible that you have been lashed out at by the company. I know some may put the burden of guilt on me, but my conscience is clear. The actions of the company towards you are the result of their own and not anyone else. The public outcry, from coast to coast, of all people, creeds, and political affiliations, is clear. I have not one doubt that there will always be support for you, and you will have prosperous careers. For neither you, nor I, have done anything wrong.
    ABC looks to be in a very awkward position. CBS, too. Can ABC insist "She's the One"? shades of some old pop song?

    Can CBS say "Oops"? Will they concoct some other justification for having fired Ms Bianco?

    ABC could request CBS fire all its producers, and that way one would surely be righteously done in. I like that idea.

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    Daniel Flynn, writing at The American Spectator, plays Capt. Obvious:
    Donald Trump Jr. outed Eric Ciaramella as the whistleblower this week as much as I presently out Mark Felt as Deep Throat. But it advances the narrative to say that he did, so fake news — an apt if overused description for outlets that do not let facts get in the way of a good story — report that he did.

    “I cannot express the horrifying impact of @DonaldJTrumpJr and @BreitbartNews to expose the whistleblower for pure retribution,” reporter Kurt Eichenwald tweeted. A Vanity Fair headline read, “Of Course Donald Trump Jr. Outed the Alleged Whistle-Blower.” Even a Drudge Report headline screams, “Junior Outs the Whistleblower.” That another Drudge headline, “Report: Whistleblower Exposed,” preceded it by more than a week rebuts the notion that Trump Jr. outed anyone.

    Trump Jr. tweeted a headline, “Alleged ‘Whistleblower’ Eric Ciaramella Worked Closely With Anti-Trump Dossier Hoaxer,” of a story appearing on the 68th most-read website in the United States, Breitbart, which generates more traffic than the Washington Post, Politico, or the Daily Beast. In other words, Trump tweeted material not only already in the public domain but also appearing on one of the most widely read news sites in this country. Beyond this, the Breitbart story appeared a week after Paul Sperry of RealClearInvestigations wrote this October 30 piece — itself preceded by tweets and blog posts identifying the whistleblower — that points to Eric Ciaramella, a 33-year-old CIA analyst, as the government worker who alleged criminal wrongdoing by Trump to Adam Schiff’s staff.
    I disagree that Ciaramella is a "whistleblower." A "gossip" would be more accurate.
    Why does Adam Schiff not want us to meet the whistleblower? Why did Twitter suspend Donald Trump Jr.’s account on Wednesday for mentioning his name? Why do news outlets claiming that “democracy dies in darkness” keep the democracy in the dark about Eric Ciaramella?

    Because the Trump White House deported him back to the CIA in 2017 when officials suspected that he leaked information for the purpose of damaging the president, because he worked for Joe Biden, John Brennan, Susan Rice, and others committed to removing this president from office, because, as Mike Cernovich wrote more than two years ago, “Ciaramella helped draft Susan Rice’s anti-Trump talking points before the Inauguration,” because Ciaramella invited Ukrainian-American activist Alexandra Chalupa, who tried to dig up dirt on Trump abroad in 2016, to the White House, and because a dozen or more other reasons.

    The president’s antagonists do not want us to know the whistleblower’s name because his identity reveals him not as a whistleblower but as an antagonist. Removing his anonymity poses a threat not to Ciaramella but to the project, termed a “coup” by his attorney two years ago, he joined to remove the president by any means necessary.
    How about instead of the "Whistleblower" nickname, we go into Italian or Spanish cuisine as these surnames suggest, Ciaramella and Chalupa, reminiscent of "The Big Enchilada" of Watergate days. Caramella and the Big Chalupa. Now we're cooking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    Okay, so "officer". And how do you justify a claim that an officer assigned to the White House is not on a career track?
    With few exceptions, the career track agents and analysts do not take junior roles at the White House. Those who are going into the political arena do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    Your claim that Schiff outed him doesn't hold water. The Taylor transcript was released on Nov. 6. It does not say that that guy is the whistleblower. It only says that Steve Castor asked Ambassador Taylor if he communicated with that guy (for reasons Steve Castor does not explain). And your own source says:

    That is prior to the release of the Taylor transcript.
    So Trump didn't out the whistleblower then either.
    "What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    None of that (even assuming it's true) negates what we know from the phone memo, and from the testimony of Sondland, Volker, Taylor, McKinsley, and Yovanovitch. So the only plausible reason remains retribution.
    That's not true. Exposing a "CIA agent" as a political type gives the true picture of what is going on. He's got a political agenda, coordinated with Schiff's office, and filed a heresay report full of speculation.

    But if you want to die on that hill, go ahead. Impeachment won't do anything to help your side.
    "What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer."

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    The mainstream media really are a bunch of pieces of shit for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Newman is just doing his part in the effort to get the guy killed. And if they can't make that happen, they will settle for letting others know that the law will not protect you so keep your mouth shut.
    Quote Originally Posted by scott View Post
    And now Bok says we want people killed.


    Yeah - Bok actually said that. There ya go Newman, Bok thinks you want someone killed.
    I thought you claimed not to be on team Trump. You're giving yourself away here.

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