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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    You act like your side is any better. They're really not. Eight years of whining, crying, bitching, and hating on Obama? No room to talk.


    I can't speak for most Democrats, but I actually would be okay with just about anybody other than Trump. I'm okay with Pence taking over even though he's a real conservative just because he has political experience and he is sane.


    on edit: And for the millionth time, unlike most other candidates, Trump has spewed hate from the beginning against various groups of people. To complain about hate when the man himself has been pushing and whipping up tons of hate makes me angry to be honest. It's beyond hypocritical. Hatred against those here illegally (calling them rapists), hatred against refugees (might be terrorists after all), hatred against Democrats (We apparently want terrorists and MS13 to take over the country, hatred against purple heart veterans (because it's apparently easier to earn than to run for president), hatred against women of color who don't have his political ideas (telling them to go back to their home country knowing three out of four of them were born here) IS PURE HATRED. Don't lecture me on hatred.

    And since Trump started running, I've had to deal with the bigotry in my area go from a four to a seven over night. He's enabled pure, bitter, beyond evil hatred over here. It was already here, but now bigots feel they can come out of the closet. And if you're not in a place like that, you don't know what you're talking about.

    So no, I REFUSE to listen to any lectures about hatred toward Trump. The man has spewed pure hatred since Day One.
    Try to get your emotions in check before you respond. I didn't lecture you. You asked a question. I gave you an answer. The fact that you don't like it shouldn't make you go all fringe-dwelling leftist. Just make your case about Bush being treated well by you and/or your party. I shared the link about impeachment. If you just want to rant and rave and play the victim like the others on the Left here, save your breath for your coffee klatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele View Post
    Try to get your emotions in check before you respond. I didn't lecture you. You asked a question. I gave you an answer. The fact that you don't like it shouldn't make you go all fringe-dwelling leftist. Just make your case about Bush being treated well by you and/or your party. I shared the link about impeachment. If you just want to rant and rave and play the victim like the others on the Left here, save your breath for your coffee klatch.
    And all I was saying is Trump and his supporters have no right to talk about hatred. Not that all Trump supporters are haters, but they're supporting a guy who whips up hatred.


    The question about whether we can have Bush back was rhetorical and Scott understood how crazy that sounded coming from me of all people. It goes back to that comment of mine of saying I'll never say another president won't be worse than President X or Z.

    Again, I can only speak for myself and not other Democrats. If Bush was president again, I would treat him with more respect today than I did during my college years when he was president. That's because I'm older, wiser, and I have more information now than back then. My biggest gripe against Bush was the fear of endless war. He did threaten multiple countries after all. He was also interested in creating more nukes. Overall, I saw him as very dangerous. I also thought there was no way we'd ever respect Iraqi sovereignty in light of the fact that the government in the past didn't respect sovereignty over those who chose Socialism in South America.

    Then came the Iraqi first election and they voted for an Islamist, which we didn't support. Not only did we not try to take away their sovereignty, but our troops risked their lives for them to have a right to vote. So, my tune started to change from there.

    If president today, I would probably fuss about his healthcare policy (nothing). The truth is I also fussed at Obama for some of his healthcare policy, his being too cuddly with certain Islamists, and other things. Just because I bash a Republican policy doesn't mean I hate the Republican. The truth is I've tried to give Trump a chance, but he continuously does crazy, stupid, and immoral stuff. I don't think I support impeachment if that makes any difference.


    But if you don't think conservatives show that same type of hatred that some have shown toward Trump, look at this.

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    Look at the images in these links. People joked about hanging Obama, deporting him, and burning him. Do you really think the conservative side has a right to talk? Both sides have their extremists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    And all I was saying is Trump and his supporters have no right to talk about hatred. Not that all Trump supporters are haters, but they're supporting a guy who whips up hatred.


    The question about whether we can have Bush back was rhetorical and Scott understood how crazy that sounded coming from me of all people. It goes back to that comment of mine of saying I'll never say another president won't be worse than President X or Z.

    Again, I can only speak for myself and not other Democrats. If Bush was president again, I would treat him with more respect today than I did during my college years when he was president. That's because I'm older, wiser, and I have more information now than back then. My biggest gripe against Bush was the fear of endless war. He did threaten multiple countries after all. He was also interested in creating more nukes. Overall, I saw him as very dangerous. I also thought there was no way we'd ever respect Iraqi sovereignty in light of the fact that the government in the past didn't respect sovereignty over those who chose Socialism in South America.

    Then came the Iraqi first election and they voted for an Islamist, which we didn't support. Not only did we not try to take away their sovereignty, but our troops risked their lives for them to have a right to vote. So, my tune started to change from there.

    If president today, I would probably fuss about his healthcare policy (nothing). The truth is I also fussed at Obama for some of his healthcare policy, his being too cuddly with certain Islamists, and other things. Just because I bash a Republican policy doesn't mean I hate the Republican. The truth is I've tried to give Trump a chance, but he continuously does crazy, stupid, and immoral stuff. I don't think I support impeachment if that makes any difference.


    But if you don't think conservatives show that same type of hatred that some have shown toward Trump, look at this.

    Link

    Link


    Link


    Look at the images in these links. People joked about hanging Obama, deporting him, and burning him. Do you really think the conservative side has a right to talk? Both sides have their extremists.
    No Lanie, you don't get to cop out to that. But if you want to stick to the "logic", then Bush came before Obama. So you go first...you and your party are the ones who have "no right to talk about hatred". See how that works?
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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    Lanie, you're back to being a demorat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    Lanie, you're back to being a demorat?
    She's a terrible demo rat. She looks nothing like a rodent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    And all I was saying is Trump and his supporters have no right to talk about hatred. Not that all Trump supporters are haters, but they're supporting a guy who whips up hatred.


    The question about whether we can have Bush back was rhetorical and Scott understood how crazy that sounded coming from me of all people. It goes back to that comment of mine of saying I'll never say another president won't be worse than President X or Z.

    Again, I can only speak for myself and not other Democrats. If Bush was president again, I would treat him with more respect today than I did during my college years when he was president. That's because I'm older, wiser, and I have more information now than back then. My biggest gripe against Bush was the fear of endless war. He did threaten multiple countries after all. He was also interested in creating more nukes. Overall, I saw him as very dangerous. I also thought there was no way we'd ever respect Iraqi sovereignty in light of the fact that the government in the past didn't respect sovereignty over those who chose Socialism in South America.

    Then came the Iraqi first election and they voted for an Islamist, which we didn't support. Not only did we not try to take away their sovereignty, but our troops risked their lives for them to have a right to vote. So, my tune started to change from there.

    If president today, I would probably fuss about his healthcare policy (nothing). The truth is I also fussed at Obama for some of his healthcare policy, his being too cuddly with certain Islamists, and other things. Just because I bash a Republican policy doesn't mean I hate the Republican. The truth is I've tried to give Trump a chance, but he continuously does crazy, stupid, and immoral stuff. I don't think I support impeachment if that makes any difference.


    But if you don't think conservatives show that same type of hatred that some have shown toward Trump, look at this.

    Link

    Link


    Link


    Look at the images in these links. People joked about hanging Obama, deporting him, and burning him. Do you really think the conservative side has a right to talk? Both sides have their extremists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    "Travon could've been my son"

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