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    The sober reflections of your president on lightbulbs and water pressure

    "They got rid of the lightbulb that people got used to," he said. "The new bulb is many times more expensive and I hate to say it, it doesn't make you look as good. Of course, being a vain person that's very important to me. It gives you an orange look, I don't want an orange look, has anyone noticed? So we'll have to change those bulbs in rooms where I'm in."

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    "We have a situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms, where you turn the faucet on in areas where there's tremendous amounts of water, where it all flows out to sea because you could never handle it all, and you don't get any wate," he said. "They take a shower and water comes dripping out, very quietly dripping out. People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once, they end up using more water. So EPA is looking very strongly at that, at my suggestion.

    "You go into a new building, new house, a new home and they have standards where don't get water, and you can't wash your hands practically, there's so little water," he added. "And the end result is that you leave the faucet on and it takes you much longer to wash your hands, and you end up using the same amount of water. So we're looking very seriously at opening up the standard and there may be some areas where we go the other route, desert areas, but for the most part you have states where they have so much water where it comes down — its called rain — that they don't know what to do with it."

    -source-

    It's called rain.

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    I'd like to know what these people are eating that they need to flush "10 or 15 times" so I can sell it as an alternative to Citrucel and Metamucil.

    I guess it'd be too much to ask the multi-millionaire to understand that LEDs save money long term versus the high initial investment. Or to understand that modern lights come in a multitude of color temperatures. Of course, if he wants to look less orange Cheeto, maybe he needs to lay off the Bronx Colors liquid makeup.
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    Will this be a gripe thread?

    I like the new LED lights. (I did NOT like the curly florescents.) They're bright, instant, dimmable, and I'm not concerned to go chasing the light switch the moment I or anyone leaves a room.

    They're also hugely expensive, compared to the cost of old incandescent bulbs. Putting in all snazzy lights in my kitchen cost something on the order of $60, whereas the old bulbs would have cost a tenth of that.

    That's OK, I can deal with it. Others I personally know cannot.

    And it's wrong to take away their choice, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    I'd like to know what these people are eating that they need to flush "10 or 15 times" so I can sell it as an alternative to Citrucel and Metamucil.

    I guess it'd be too much to ask the multi-millionaire to understand that LEDs save money long term versus the high initial investment. Or to understand that modern lights come in a multitude of color temperatures. Of course, if he wants to look less orange Cheeto, maybe he needs to lay off the Bronx Colors liquid makeup.
    Like everything the government touches, they overdo it. Toilets, light bulbs, etc. Ever use a new gas can? About the worst piece of crap that can be had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    I guess it'd be too much to ask the multi-millionaire to understand that LEDs save money long term versus the high initial investment.
    Sorry, but no. They don't last any longer than regular bulbs. Experience with those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    Like everything the government touches, they overdo it. Toilets, light bulbs, etc. Ever use a new gas can? About the worst piece of crap that can be had.
    Oh God, what did they do to gas cans? I haven't even bothered to look at them in the store in probably 20 years.

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    Sorry, but no. They don't last any longer than regular bulbs. Experience with those things.
    Are you using cheap Chinese crap? I've used dozens, from a multitude of brands, and I'd say out of 20 or more, only two have failed prematurely. The others are all anywhere from 5-10 years old now and still going strong.

    I went from replacing the weird specialty size ceiling fan lights in my bedroom once every six months (times three) to… nothing in years, after going to LEDs. And they are so much brighter than the incandescents!
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    Are you using cheap Chinese crap? I've used dozens, from a multitude of brands, and I'd say out of 20 or more, only two have failed prematurely. The others are all anywhere from 5-10 years old now and still going strong.

    I went from replacing the weird specialty size ceiling fan lights in my bedroom once every six months (times three) to… nothing in years, after going to LEDs. And they are so much brighter than the incandescents!
    A good friend told me recently that he always writes on the base of the light bulb with a Sharpie the date that he screwed in it. He's found that the LEDs aren't lasting as advertised.

    Meanwhile, there's this by Monica Showalter, which I find encouraging, based on a report in The Hill:

    Trump gives us back our light bulbs
    . . . Way back in 2011, when the Bush-era nanny-state measure was first enacted, Virginia Postrel, then at Bloomberg (she might still be) wrote this brilliant piece on how stupid and immoral the whole thing was. She began:

    If you want to know why so many Americans feel alienated from their government, you need only go to Target and check out the light bulb aisle. Instead of the cheap commodities of yesteryear, you’ll find what looks like evidence of a flourishing, technology-driven economy.

    There are “ultrasoft” bulbs promising “softer soft white longer life” light, domed halogens for “bright crisp light” and row upon row of Energy Smart bulbs -- some curled in the by-now-familiar compact fluorescent form, some with translucent shells that reveal only hints of the twisting tubes within.

    I can't get the whole thing on Outline, but here was her money-quote:

    … the activists offended by the public’s presumed wastefulness took a more direct approach. They joined forces with the big bulb producers, who had an interest in replacing low-margin commodities with high-margin specialty wares, and, with help from Congress and President George W. Bush, banned the bulbs people prefer.

    It was an inside job. Neither ordinary consumers nor even organized interior designers had a say. Lawmakers buried the ban in the 300-plus pages of the 2007 energy bill, and very few talked about it in public. It was crony capitalism with a touch of green.

    Trump understood exactly what was going on as she did. And yes, this is something that directly impacts people's lives, so guess what? He's going to win votes.

    What's cool about this is that it's not the only creepy little nanny-state regulation from the left that he's going to get rid of for us. He's broadly hinted that flush-toilets are next, those awful kind that requires some users to flush four times, given the absence of water use they permit to get the job done.

    There are so many others that have made our lives poorer, less comfortable, and more third-worldy - plastic straw bans, styrofoam container bans, recycling requirements which are bad, not good, for the environment, automobile gas mileage requirements based on technology that doesn't exist, bacteria-filled recycle bag requirements over disposable bags at the groceries in some states which are unhealthy as heck.

    They're all outrageous regulations cooked up by the Tom-Steyer greenie-left, promoting virtue-signaling and saving the earth but in reality, just schemes to keep the proles in their places so that the billionaires can jet around without competition and maintain those 'unspoiled' ski slopes and coastal properties. Keeping the proles in their place through high costs is a big scam to and they're banking on the proles never suspecting the actual game going on, no light bulbs, so to speak, going on -- a plan to take away their comforts and freedoms, particularly the freedom to have money, so that billionaires can feel exclusive again. Guys like Steyer don't like poor people having money or comforts because it reduces the status of their own exclusive comforts. Who's going to be impressed with a billionaire if everyone else out there has the same stuff?

    Trump just stomped for us a little Steyer - and that entire sleazebag nanny-state industrial complex seen on the richie left that wants to steal our salt shakers (as Michael Bloomberg does) and regulate for us every last move of our lives.

    Thanks, President Trump.
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    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    Tom posted:

    Oh God, what did they do to gas cans? I haven't even bothered to look at them in the store in probably 20 years.
    The venting is fucked up, the pour spouts are fucked up. With any luck at all, you'll get half the gas into the tank you are filling, the other half will be on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    Like everything the government touches, they overdo it. Toilets, light bulbs, etc. Ever use a new gas can? About the worst piece of crap that can be had.

    Mark
    Holy shit! You ain't kidding! I had to get a new one a few months ago, as I managed to abandon the one that I had when I moved. Christ! You need four hands just to operate the damned thing, and no matter what sort of acrobatics you do, you can't possibly get more than one gallon out of a two-gallon can. And you wind up paying like $15 for this "privilege."



    And Tom, it's not about what someone ate: it's about the fact that the low-flow toilets suck (or, more accurately, don't suck) at getting down #2. Granted, there have been some improvements in the last few years, but I know plenty of people who literally smuggled non-low-flow toilets from Canada (this is not a joke) because they could not get a functioning toilet in their home even at an $800 pricetag because they were regulated to 1.2 gallons (or whatever it is) per flush. My own brother, who is the greenest, most dirt-worshiping person on the planet, is one of those who literally rented a pickup truck, drove to Toronto, and bought three non-low-flow toilets there and sneaked them back across the US border because he couldn't get functioning toilets for his house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    Holy shit! You ain't kidding! I had to get a new one a few months ago, as I managed to abandon the one that I had when I moved. Christ! You need four hands just to operate the damned thing, and no matter what sort of acrobatics you do, you can't possibly get more than one gallon out of a two-gallon can. And you wind up paying like $15 for this "privilege."



    And Tom, it's not about what someone ate: it's about the fact that the low-flow toilets suck (or, more accurately, don't suck) at getting down #2. Granted, there have been some improvements in the last few years, but I know plenty of people who literally smuggled non-low-flow toilets from Canada (this is not a joke) because they could not get a functioning toilet in their home even at an $800 pricetag because they were regulated to 1.2 gallons (or whatever it is) per flush. My own brother, who is the greenest, most dirt-worshiping person on the planet, is one of those who literally rented a pickup truck, drove to Toronto, and bought three non-low-flow toilets there and sneaked them back across the US border because he couldn't get functioning toilets for his house.
    When the ancient (vintage 1958) toilet in my house in Florida finally gave up, my plumber proposed we move the one (same general era) from the bathroom in what had been the original owner's workshop bathroom - and became my home office - upstairs. He was then ble to replace the one in my office with a commercial toilet (because it was being installed in a business), which somewhat mitigated the low-flow issue. Jerry was my hero on more than one occasion, but definitely that time.
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