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    Washington Post Writer Canít Figure Out Why Trump Supporters Wonít Talk To Her

    Washington Post Writer Canít Figure Out Why Trump Supporters Wonít Talk To Her

    In corporate media, conservative women are simply presumed to be bigoted, or stupid, or who cares, as long as itís an opportunity to trivialize them.

    By Casey Chalk
    JANUARY 3, 2020

    Washington Post columnist Petula Dvorak is confused. In October 2019 she visited a ďWomen for TrumpĒ rally in our nationís capital, trying to figure out why these women support President Trump. Attendants were hesitant to answer Dvorak, particularly when she identified herself as a WaPo employee.

    ďThe women on the Capitol lawn approving of him, for the most part, didnít want to talk to me,Ē she acknowledged. Those who did answered with vagaries, like one woman who simply explained her support with, ďOh, for many, many reasons.Ē
    This prompted another question for Dvorak: Why are conservatives so distrustful of her and the mainstream media she represents? Dvorak thinks the answer can be reduced to President Trumpís disparaging of what he calls the ďAmazon Washington PostĒ or the ďFailing New York Times,Ē as if conservative women are mindless lemmings who bow to his every bidding.

    Iíll offer a more basic answer: because these outlets, and many others like them, offer such blatantly critical and condescending perspectives on conservative Americans and their values. This is palpable even in Dvorakís article, which rather than attempting empathy for conservative women who donít equate feminism with pro-choice politics, simply belittles them. She writes:

    But why, specifically, is he good for American women, I wanted to know. Was there a woman who believes the Equal Rights Amendment is an old idea thatís no longer relevant? Or a woman who believes it was Melania Trump who brought family values and Christmas back to the White House? Or a military mom who is so glad funding for military child care will instead be used to build the wall?
    Well, when you set it up that wayÖ Dvorakís approach is akin to a lawyer who asks the defendant when he stopped beating his wife. Conservative women are simply presumed to be bigoted, or stupid, or who cares, as long as itís an opportunity to trivialize them.

    The problem goes far beyond Dvorak and her consistent mockery of conservatives. Monica Hesse, whose WaPo byline describes her as a ďcolumnist writing about gender and its impact on society,Ē rivals Dvorak in her antipathy for conservatives and their way of life.

    Hesse loves to write articles encouraging America to ďhave a conversationĒ or ďtalk aboutĒ some gender-related subject she deems important. Yet consider her provocative headlines: ďWhy do so many dads think itís their duty to monitor their daughtersí virginity?Ē ďWe need to talk about why mass shooters are almost always men,Ē and ďI walked Ďlike a maní for a week, and hereís what I realized.Ē
    More and worth the read.

    I've read both the columnists mentioned. When they have written about conservatives or conservative women it doesn't seem to describe any conservatives or conservative women that I have ever met. Those writers and many others often read like Medieval bestiaries - fourth hand accounts of exotic animals that are made up equally of folk tales, religious (political) symbolism, and wishful thinking.

    The message I have gotten over and over again from journalists describing conservative women is that we are Stepford Wives dutifully programmed by husbands, fathers, Trump, and our Vengeful Sky God (in that order) to forge the chains of our own oppression. It's that or we are beer-swilling trailer park sluts who illegally wear yoga pants to Walmart and have a bail bond place on speed dial.

    If we don't agree with ERA, unlimited abortion, the wage gap myth, affirmative action for women, girrrl power at the expense of boys, the disparity in child custody that favors women, or tampons in men's bathrooms, we are traitors to our own sex. If we do believe in limited government, personal responsibility, or favor intact marriages between opposite sexed adults before producing bio kids, we are hopelessly brainwashed by the patriarchy and we don't even know it!

    We can't win no matter how principled or articulate we are. The reframing and editing has to fit a specific narrative or bolster a certain predetermined observation. If we talk about specific policies or cultural trends that have negative effects on the wider society, the writer will juxtapose a story about an individual where this is not true. If we point to specific individuals who defy progressive stereotypes, the writer will launch into a contra point involving society as a whole.

    Given how vicious both journalists and cancel culture is today, how many would agree to speak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    The message I have gotten over and over again from journalists describing conservative women is that we are Stepford Wives dutifully programmed by husbands, fathers, Trump, and our Vengeful Sky God (in that order) to forge the chains of our own oppression.
    How terrible.

    "I saw him," Trump said of the speech. "He was very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. His wife Ö if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say."

    "She probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me," Trump continued. "But a plenty of people have written that. She was extremely quiet, and it looked like she had nothing to say. A lot of people have said that."

    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heartís desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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    The problem goes far beyond Dvorak and her consistent mockery of conservatives.
    The article Casey links there contains no mockery of conservatives. It's mostly about the woman who flipped off the president's motorcade, had her picture go viral, subsequently got fired for it, and then two years later ran for county supervisor and won.

    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heartís desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
    -H. L. Mencken

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    liberal: CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARE ALL STUPID AND RACIST AND PARTICIPATING IN THEIR OWN OPPRESSION

    liberal: I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARENT SUPPORTING US
    ďI do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
    I aim with my eye.

    "I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
    I shoot with my mind.

    "I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father.
    I kill with my heart.Ē

    The Gunslinger Creed, Stephen King, The Dark Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveman View Post
    liberal: CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARE ALL STUPID AND RACIST AND PARTICIPATING IN THEIR OWN OPPRESSION

    liberal: I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARENT SUPPORTING US
    pretty much
    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.Ē óDonald Trump.

    "I think you called me a liar on national TV." óElizabeth Warren. "Well, duh." óBernie Sanders, shoulda said.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." óElizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    ďThe interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasnít originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.Ē óSaikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." óCNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    Members of cults are conditioned to be distrustful of outsiders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Members of cults are conditioned to be distrustful of outsiders.
    Lol. I suppose when you are called Nazi's, homophobes, ect., it does tend to make us be a bit distrustful.

    In Billy's world, the "cult" of the Jews being marched to the gas chambers shoulda just trusted the Nazi's.

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    You know who else wore clothes?



    Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    You know who else wore clothes?



    Hitler.

    Lol. I'm telling you the truth right now Billy. I wish I could experience life thru your eyes just one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Members of cults are conditioned to be distrustful of outsiders.
    Yes but the WaPo should muster up the courage to step outside their compound at least once in a while.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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