Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17

Thread: Washington Post Writer Can’t Figure Out Why Trump Supporters Won’t Talk To Her

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Tuesday, October 1st, 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 9:51 AM
    Posts
    23,481
    Post Thanks / Like

    Washington Post Writer Can’t Figure Out Why Trump Supporters Won’t Talk To Her

    Washington Post Writer Can’t Figure Out Why Trump Supporters Won’t Talk To Her

    In corporate media, conservative women are simply presumed to be bigoted, or stupid, or who cares, as long as it’s an opportunity to trivialize them.

    By Casey Chalk
    JANUARY 3, 2020

    Washington Post columnist Petula Dvorak is confused. In October 2019 she visited a “Women for Trump” rally in our nation’s capital, trying to figure out why these women support President Trump. Attendants were hesitant to answer Dvorak, particularly when she identified herself as a WaPo employee.

    “The women on the Capitol lawn approving of him, for the most part, didn’t want to talk to me,” she acknowledged. Those who did answered with vagaries, like one woman who simply explained her support with, “Oh, for many, many reasons.”
    This prompted another question for Dvorak: Why are conservatives so distrustful of her and the mainstream media she represents? Dvorak thinks the answer can be reduced to President Trump’s disparaging of what he calls the “Amazon Washington Post” or the “Failing New York Times,” as if conservative women are mindless lemmings who bow to his every bidding.

    I’ll offer a more basic answer: because these outlets, and many others like them, offer such blatantly critical and condescending perspectives on conservative Americans and their values. This is palpable even in Dvorak’s article, which rather than attempting empathy for conservative women who don’t equate feminism with pro-choice politics, simply belittles them. She writes:

    But why, specifically, is he good for American women, I wanted to know. Was there a woman who believes the Equal Rights Amendment is an old idea that’s no longer relevant? Or a woman who believes it was Melania Trump who brought family values and Christmas back to the White House? Or a military mom who is so glad funding for military child care will instead be used to build the wall?
    Well, when you set it up that way… Dvorak’s approach is akin to a lawyer who asks the defendant when he stopped beating his wife. Conservative women are simply presumed to be bigoted, or stupid, or who cares, as long as it’s an opportunity to trivialize them.

    The problem goes far beyond Dvorak and her consistent mockery of conservatives. Monica Hesse, whose WaPo byline describes her as a “columnist writing about gender and its impact on society,” rivals Dvorak in her antipathy for conservatives and their way of life.

    Hesse loves to write articles encouraging America to “have a conversation” or “talk about” some gender-related subject she deems important. Yet consider her provocative headlines: “Why do so many dads think it’s their duty to monitor their daughters’ virginity?” “We need to talk about why mass shooters are almost always men,” and “I walked ‘like a man’ for a week, and here’s what I realized.”
    More and worth the read.

    I've read both the columnists mentioned. When they have written about conservatives or conservative women it doesn't seem to describe any conservatives or conservative women that I have ever met. Those writers and many others often read like Medieval bestiaries - fourth hand accounts of exotic animals that are made up equally of folk tales, religious (political) symbolism, and wishful thinking.

    The message I have gotten over and over again from journalists describing conservative women is that we are Stepford Wives dutifully programmed by husbands, fathers, Trump, and our Vengeful Sky God (in that order) to forge the chains of our own oppression. It's that or we are beer-swilling trailer park sluts who illegally wear yoga pants to Walmart and have a bail bond place on speed dial.

    If we don't agree with ERA, unlimited abortion, the wage gap myth, affirmative action for women, girrrl power at the expense of boys, the disparity in child custody that favors women, or tampons in men's bathrooms, we are traitors to our own sex. If we do believe in limited government, personal responsibility, or favor intact marriages between opposite sexed adults before producing bio kids, we are hopelessly brainwashed by the patriarchy and we don't even know it!

    We can't win no matter how principled or articulate we are. The reframing and editing has to fit a specific narrative or bolster a certain predetermined observation. If we talk about specific policies or cultural trends that have negative effects on the wider society, the writer will juxtapose a story about an individual where this is not true. If we point to specific individuals who defy progressive stereotypes, the writer will launch into a contra point involving society as a whole.

    Given how vicious both journalists and cancel culture is today, how many would agree to speak?

    The Federalist
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

  2. Likes 80zephyr, daveman liked this post
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Tuesday, October 22nd, 2013
    Last Online
    Friday, March 6th, 2020 @ 8:26 PM
    Posts
    14,904
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    The message I have gotten over and over again from journalists describing conservative women is that we are Stepford Wives dutifully programmed by husbands, fathers, Trump, and our Vengeful Sky God (in that order) to forge the chains of our own oppression.
    How terrible.

    "I saw him," Trump said of the speech. "He was very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. His wife … if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say."

    "She probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me," Trump continued. "But a plenty of people have written that. She was extremely quiet, and it looked like she had nothing to say. A lot of people have said that."

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Tuesday, October 22nd, 2013
    Last Online
    Friday, March 6th, 2020 @ 8:26 PM
    Posts
    14,904
    Post Thanks / Like
    The problem goes far beyond Dvorak and her consistent mockery of conservatives.
    The article Casey links there contains no mockery of conservatives. It's mostly about the woman who flipped off the president's motorcade, had her picture go viral, subsequently got fired for it, and then two years later ran for county supervisor and won.

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Sunday, November 10th, 2013
    Last Online
    Tuesday, September 15th, 2020 @ 7:29 PM
    Posts
    893
    Post Thanks / Like
    liberal: CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARE ALL STUPID AND RACIST AND PARTICIPATING IN THEIR OWN OPPRESSION

    liberal: I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARENT SUPPORTING US
    “I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
    I aim with my eye.

    "I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
    I shoot with my mind.

    "I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father.
    I kill with my heart.”

    The Gunslinger Creed, Stephen King, The Dark Tower

  6. Likes 80zephyr, Newman liked this post
  7. #5
    Join Date
    Friday, November 1st, 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 10:28 AM
    Posts
    12,534
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by daveman View Post
    liberal: CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARE ALL STUPID AND RACIST AND PARTICIPATING IN THEIR OWN OPPRESSION

    liberal: I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ARENT SUPPORTING US
    pretty much
    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


  8. Thanks daveman thanked for this post
  9. #6
    Join Date
    Wednesday, October 2nd, 2013
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Fort Worth, TX
    Posts
    15,652
    Post Thanks / Like
    Members of cults are conditioned to be distrustful of outsiders.

  10. #7
    Join Date
    Saturday, January 3rd, 2015
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:50 PM
    Posts
    12,734
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Members of cults are conditioned to be distrustful of outsiders.
    Lol. I suppose when you are called Nazi's, homophobes, ect., it does tend to make us be a bit distrustful.

    In Billy's world, the "cult" of the Jews being marched to the gas chambers shoulda just trusted the Nazi's.

    Mark
    Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

    "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

    Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

    Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

  11. Likes daveman liked this post
  12. #8
    Join Date
    Wednesday, October 2nd, 2013
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Fort Worth, TX
    Posts
    15,652
    Post Thanks / Like
    You know who else wore clothes?



    Hitler.

  13. #9
    Join Date
    Saturday, January 3rd, 2015
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:50 PM
    Posts
    12,734
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    You know who else wore clothes?



    Hitler.

    Lol. I'm telling you the truth right now Billy. I wish I could experience life thru your eyes just one day.

    Mark
    Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

    "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

    Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

    Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

  14. #10
    Join Date
    Wednesday, October 2nd, 2013
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    10,362
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Members of cults are conditioned to be distrustful of outsiders.
    Yes but the WaPo should muster up the courage to step outside their compound at least once in a while.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

  15. Likes daveman, 80zephyr liked this post

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •