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    New York Times Endorses Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren for President

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    The New York Times announced Sunday evening that it had endorsed Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) in a rare dual endorsement for the Democratic Party 2020 presidential nomination.
    The Times explained its reasoning for choosing Klobuchar and Warren, saying it was choosing from the best among the “realist” and “radical” models of “progressive” politics:

    Both the radical and the realist models warrant serious consideration. If there were ever a time to be open to new ideas, it is now. If there were ever a time to seek stability, now is it.

    That’s why we’re endorsing the most effective advocates for each approach. They are Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.



    Senator Warren is a gifted storyteller. She speaks elegantly of how the economic system is rigged against all but the wealthiest Americans, and of “our chance to rewrite the rules of power in our country,” as she put it in a speech last month.



    The senator from Minnesota [Klobuchar] is the very definition of Midwestern charisma, grit and sticktoitiveness. Her lengthy tenure in the Senate and bipartisan credentials would make her a deal maker (a real one) and uniter for the wings of the party — and perhaps the nation.
    OK. "Senator Warren is a gifted storyteller" made me laugh. It's hard for me to think the Old Gray Lady wasn't sticking a little "bless her heart" shiv in her there.

    The endorsement was timed to affect the outcome of the Iowa caucuses Feb. 3 and the New Hampshire primary Feb. 11. It is not clear, however, that the Times endorsements carry any weight at all in the Hawkeye State.
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    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "I think you called me a liar on national TV." —Elizabeth Warren. "Well, duh." —Bernie Sanders, shoulda said.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    Both the radical and the realist models warrant serious consideration.

    I agree. From the moment they leave your hand until they enter the dumpster, you should seriously consider them.
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    "I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father.
    I kill with my heart.”

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    I'm not sure the NYT has much endorsement penetration outside of NYC.

    I can see why local papers endorse candidates (sort of) but maybe the time has come for newspapers to drop this gimmick.

    Newspaper editorial boards are a couple of steps below used car salesmen and Scientologists at the moment. Maybe just don't endorse anybody. Dropping it can't harm what's left of your circulation and it will keep you from being ridiculed on social media.
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    It looks like for now at any rate the endorsement editorial isn't behind their pay wall. It's lengthy, 3400 words. Here are parts of it.

    At the outset it's clear Trump is in their heads. The question is whether the election is about throwing out the baby, Trump, or the bathwater too, our "political and economic systems." Paragraph 3:
    On the Democratic side, an essential debate is underway between two visions that may define the future of the party and perhaps the nation. Some in the party view President Trump as an aberration and believe that a return to a more sensible America is possible. Then there are those who believe that President Trump was the product of political and economic systems so rotten that they must be replaced.
    Otherwise the candidates are strikingly similar:
    The Democratic primary contest is often portrayed as a tussle between moderates and progressives. To some extent that’s true. But when we spent significant time with the leading candidates, the similarity of their platforms on fundamental issues became striking.
    So, they put aside the popular question, Who can beat Trump, and go with the baby or baby & bathwater choice. They reach for Dickensian erudition in announcing their choice:
    Both the radical and the realist models warrant serious consideration. If there were ever a time to be open to new ideas, it is now. If there were ever a time to seek stability, now is it.
    Well, it's the best of times, according to economists. But at least we learn that the Old Gray Lady's name isn't Sophie.

    Sanders, they write, is old, a serious health concern. Plus, he "boasts that compromise is anathema to him. Only his prescriptions can be the right ones, even though most are overly rigid, untested and divisive."

    Elizabeth Warren has emerged as a standard-bearer for the Democratic left.
    They forecast a very difficult time getting her agenda through Congress and the courts if she's elected.

    Buttigieg isn't ripe yet. "[W]e look forward to him working his way up."

    Bloomberg snubbed the NYT:
    Mr. Bloomberg’s current campaign approach reveals more about America’s broken system than his likelihood of fixing it. Rather than build support through his ideas and experience, Mr. Bloomberg has spent at least $217 million to date to circumvent the hard, uncomfortable work of actual campaigning. He’s also avoided difficult questions — going so far as to bar his own news organization from investigating him, and declining to meet with The Times’s editorial board under the pretext that he didn’t yet have positions on enough issues. What’s worse, Mr. Bloomberg refuses to allow several women with whom he has nondisclosure settlements to speak freely.
    They write of the Capo of the Biden clan,
    Mr. Biden maintains a lead in national polls, but that may be a measure of familiarity as much as voter intention. His central pitch to voters is that he can beat Donald Trump. His agenda tinkers at the edges of issues like health care and climate, and he emphasizes returning the country to where things were before the Trump era. But merely restoring the status quo will not get America where it needs to go as a society. What’s more, Mr. Biden is 77. It is time for him to pass the torch to a new generation of political leaders.
    That leaves Amy.
    Good news, then, that Amy Klobuchar has emerged as a standard-bearer for the Democratic center.
    and they spend eight paragraphs extolling her virtues, approximately the same amount of ink given to examining Ms Warren. I say extolling and examining because I think the tone of the two parts is quite that different.

    They finish with a flourish of dithering:
    Any hope of restoring unity in the country will require modesty, a willingness to compromise and the support of the many demographics that make up the Democratic coalition — young and old, in red states and blue, black and brown and white. For Senator Klobuchar, that’s acknowledging the depth of the nation’s dysfunction. For Senator Warren, it’s understanding that the country is more diverse than her base.

    There will be those dissatisfied that this page is not throwing its weight behind a single candidate, favoring centrists or progressives. But it’s a fight the party itself has been itching to have since Mrs. Clinton’s defeat in 2016, and one that should be played out in the public arena and in the privacy of the voting booth. That’s the very purpose of primaries, to test-market strategies and ideas that can galvanize and inspire the country.

    Ms. Klobuchar and Ms. Warren right now are the Democrats best equipped to lead that debate.

    May the best woman win.
    I suspect the editorial board is sharply divided.

    Sanders is really the "standard-bearer of the Democratic left," but he stiffed them. Biden is really the "standard-bearer of the Democratic center," but he's really losing his marbles, and he has more chains of scandal hanging around him now than Scrooge's late partner Marley did in the Dickens' Christmas Story.

    Warren and Klobuchar are stand-ins. I suppose they could share the Democratic ticket, JFK and LBJ style, but that's unlikely. The V-P would need to check other identity politics boxes than female. I think Buttigieg is the most likely V-P candidate as of now, if either woman wins; Deval Patrick also possible if Klobuchar wins.

    Still two weeks before Iowa, though; this is just pre-season musing.
    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "I think you called me a liar on national TV." —Elizabeth Warren. "Well, duh." —Bernie Sanders, shoulda said.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    I'm not sure the NYT has much endorsement penetration outside of NYC.

    I can see why local papers endorse candidates (sort of) but maybe the time has come for newspapers to drop this gimmick.

    Newspaper editorial boards are a couple of steps below used car salesmen and Scientologists at the moment. Maybe just don't endorse anybody. Dropping it can't harm what's left of your circulation and it will keep you from being ridiculed on social media.
    The lure of climbing atop one's soapbox and delivering a long homily is irresistible to many.

    I should know.
    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "I think you called me a liar on national TV." —Elizabeth Warren. "Well, duh." —Bernie Sanders, shoulda said.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    "We endorse Klobuchar and Warren because they're Vagina-Americans."
    “I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
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    "I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father.
    I kill with my heart.”

    The Gunslinger Creed, Stephen King, The Dark Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveman View Post
    "We endorse Klobuchar and Warren because they're Vagina-Americans."
    Wouldn't be cheaper to just endorse one of Gwyneth Paltrow's candles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveman View Post
    "We endorse Klobuchar and Warren because they're Vagina-Americans."
    We have a winner!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Wouldn't be cheaper to just endorse one of Gwyneth Paltrow's candles?
    But what about all of the trans-somethings who think that because they declare that they are women they suddenly have menstruation? How unfair of you!

    And who doesn't want to have a candle that smells like menstruation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveman View Post
    "We endorse Klobuchar and Warren because they're Vagina-Americans."
    Mark's right: that's mostly it.

    BTW, I looked again at what the NYT wrote about Bernie, and I wonder if his personality attracted the sort of creeps Veritas filmed.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYT
    Senator Sanders has spent nearly four decades advocating revolutionary change for a nation whose politics often move with glacial slowness. A career spent adjacent to the Democratic Party but not a part of it has allowed him to level trenchant criticism of a political party that often caters more to rich donors than to the middle class. Many of his ideas that were once labeled radical — like paid family leave, a higher minimum wage, universal health care and limits on military intervention — are now mainstream, and may attract voters who helped elect Mr. Trump in 2016.

    Mr. Sanders would be 79 when he assumed office, and after an October heart attack, his health is a serious concern. Then, there’s how Mr. Sanders approaches politics. He boasts that compromise is anathema to him. Only his prescriptions can be the right ones, even though most are overly rigid, untested and divisive. He promises that once in office, a groundswell of support will emerge to push through his agenda. Three years into the Trump administration, we see little advantage to exchanging one over-promising, divisive figure in Washington for another.

    It reminds me of
    another assessment:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hillary Clinton
    "He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It's all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it."
    "I will say, however, that it's not only him, it's the culture around him. It's his leadership team. It's his prominent supporters. It's his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women," Clinton told the Hollywood Reporter.
    So Hillary said something true? She probably had to take a powder and lie down a spell.

    Meanwhile, speaking of truth, maybe Veritas shouldn't be a surprise after all:

    Project Veritas–Bernie Campaigner Dreams of Slaying MSNBC Hosts: ‘Liberals Get the F***ing Wall First’




    and another:

    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "I think you called me a liar on national TV." —Elizabeth Warren. "Well, duh." —Bernie Sanders, shoulda said.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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