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    Iowa Caucuses

    AP Explains: New rules could muddle results of Iowa caucuses
    Stephen Ohlemacher.
    On Monday, voters who have gathered at more than 1,600 caucus sites will begin their night by declaring support for their preferred presidential candidate. After a feverish round of lobbying, supporters of eliminated candidates can make a second choice.

    This year, there’s a new wrinkle that could make the caucus even more chaotic.

    For the first time, the Iowa Democratic Party will report three sets of results. There is no guarantee that all three will show the same winner.

    Each set of results represents a different stage of the caucus. The new rules for Monday’s contest were mandated by the Democratic National Committee in a bid to make the process more transparent.
    In the past, Iowa Democrats reported only one set of results: the number of state convention delegates won by each candidate through the caucus process.
    That's still the bottom line.
    There will be three sets of results: tallies of the “first alignment” of caucus-goers, their “final alignment” and the total number of State Delegate Equivalents each candidate receives.

    This is the first time the party has made public the first and final alignment results.
    In Iowa, voters arriving at their caucus site will fill out a card that lists their first choice. Those results will be tabulated and will determine the results of the “first alignment.”

    But that’s not the end of the night.

    Caucusgoers whose first-choice candidate fails to get at least 15% of the vote can switch their support to a different candidate. The threshold can be higher at some precincts. If voters don’t choose another candidate, their vote won’t count in the final alignment. They can choose “uncommitted,” but that choice only gets reported if it, too, gets at least 15% of the vote.

    The results of this stage will be tabulated to determine the caucuses’ “final alignment.”
    The final alignment votes are then used to calculate the number of state convention delegates awarded to each candidate. The party calls these state delegate equivalents, because they represent the number of delegates each candidate will have at the party’s state convention in June. That, in turn, determines how many national convention delegates each candidate receives.

    Iowa will award 41 pledged delegates to the Democratic National Convention, based on the results of the party caucuses.
    So the winner is the candidate with the most state delegate equivalents, meaning his or her representation at the state convention in June, where the delegates for the national convention will be chosen, exactly as it has been.
    The new rules were mandated by the DNC as part of a package of changes sought by Bernie Sanders following his loss to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential primaries. The changes were designed to make the caucus system more transparent and to make sure that even the lowest-performing candidates get credit for all the votes they receive.

    And it’s not just Iowa that is affected by the changes. The Nevada Democratic caucuses on Feb. 22 will also report three sets of results.
    I think "results" is the wrong word. Two interim tallies (or progress reports or something) are required this time around, but there's one result.
    “We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing.” —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.

    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    The DNC knows what’s best for its sheep.
    If it pays, it stays

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    No one saw this coming . . .

    And apparently nothing is coming.

    Iowa caucus vote totals delayed amid 'inconsistencies'; campaigns lash out at 'crazy' state party
    The Iowa Democratic Party (IDP) still has not reported official vote totals in the critical Iowa caucuses as of early Tuesday morning, in a largely unexplained and unprecedented delay that has raised questions about the legitimacy of the contest -- and Democratic campaign officials are livid, Fox News has learned.
    "We found inconsistencies in the reporting of three sets of results," the IDP said in a statement at 11:30 p.m. ET. "In addition to the tech systems being used to tabulate results, we are also using photos of results and a paper trail to validate that all results match and ensure that we have confidence and accuracy in the numbers we report. This is simply a reporting issue. The app did not go down and this is not a hack or an intrusion. The underlying data and paper trail is sound and will simply take time to further report the results."

    Fox News is told that during an initial conference call with the campaigns, an IDP representative said the party would be "getting photos of the paper results sent over," but didn't answer any questions and then hung up on all the campaigns, even as frustrated staffers pushed for answers. A campaign staffer told Fox News the IDP's brief call was "crazy."
    During a second, equally contentious conference call early Tuesday morning, the IDP reportedly informed campaigns they could expect results sometime later on Tuesday, but gave no information about how the results would be verified or when precisely they would be published. (The 2016 Iowa caucus tallies were provided on the same day of voting, with more than 90 percent of precincts reporting by 11:00 p.m. ET that year.)

    Speaking on a brief call with reporters at approximately 1:10 a.m. ET on Tuesday that lasted a little over a minute, the IDP said the system to validate electoral results was taking longer than expected, but that there had been no hack or intrusion. The IDP did not specify a precise time for results to post on Tuesday.
    Starting with Amy Klobuchar all the major candidates gave victory speeches to their campaign staffs and headed off to New Hampshire.

    The snafu is stunning in its totality.

    Perhaps it brings to mind the un-stellar debut of the Obamacare website in 2013, at least to people over about 25.

    Presumably there will be results announced later (today?). Maybe it will still matter, but the big story out of Iowa is incompetence.
    “We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing.” —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.

    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    The Iowa Democratic Party should just hand out Participation trophies to all the Democrats and call it a day.

    Everybody be happy.
    “We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing.” —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.

    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    I didn't watch any of this crap, but from the commentary this morning I assume things did not go well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandersnatch45 View Post
    I didn't watch any of this crap, but from the commentary this morning I assume things did not go well.


    It looks to me like a massive failure resulting from hiring people connected rather than competent.

    The outfit responsible for this "unmitigated disaster" is something called the Defending Digital Democracy Project, at which Harvard partnered with Robert Mook, Hillary's campaign director, and Matt Rhodes, Romney's campaign director.

    They made a video.

    Mook tweeted he don't know nothing about birthing no babies:



    Otherwise he's had no comment I'm aware of. He and Matt are probably busy revising their resumes.

    The replies to that tweet are interesting, too. Mook had no problem getting credit from such as USA Today in advance of the Big Reveal.

    Maybe the Dems will pick up a pattern here, from Bobby Mook to Hunter Biden to Chelsea Clinton (at CNN). . . even to Hillary Clinton herself, perhaps the only major Democrat who could lose to Donald Trump. She was surely connected to their favorite president, but she was surely not him.

    “We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing.” —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.

    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    I find the idea of a caucus a little bit bizarre. But, Pennsylvania is not a caucus state, I'm not a Quaker, and and I tend to like straight up or down votes. Probably why I like being a lawyer and a Catholic.
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    Tom Perez is catching the social media heat for this failure.

    #TomPerezResign Trends as 2020 Democrats Accuse DNC Chair of Changing Rules for Mike Bloomberg's Benefit
    Democratic National Committee Chair Tom Perez is facing calls to resign amid accusations that a decision to relax the DNC's debate criteria was made as part of an effort to give former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg the chance to participate.

    As the Iowa caucuses descended into chaos on Monday due to inconsistencies in reporting results, Perez faced scrutiny over the DNC's announcement that it would no longer require 2020 Democratic presidential candidates to meet any donor requirements in order to participate in debates.
    Monica Showalker offers some colorful tweets, for example:



    "Tom Perez Must Resign" petition is here.
    “We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing.” —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.

    "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.

    "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.

    “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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    Bernie won in a landslide and the Dems are trying to find a way to deny him the win.
    If it pays, it stays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbit View Post
    Bernie won in a landslide and the Dems are trying to find a way to deny him the win.
    Yep. That’s what all the Russian bots are saying.
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