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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    MSN. Go figure.



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    They are ignoring concentration of populaton.

    That statistic has zero use.
    Sort of, Gramps. That statistic is plenty useful to race hustlers and left-leaning Democrats.

    I think an important factor is still unmentionable. We are too busy praising the "front line workers," always including "doctors and nurses." We honk our car horns and applaud on sidewalks.

    Meanwhile, in a nearby thread I posted an article that described deplorable standards of sanitation and professionalism in some of NYC's hospitals. A friend of mine in NY confirmed the truth of it, but it's still "not fit to print," as the Old Gray Lady would say.

    It's just a fact of NYC life that certain businesses come to be dominated by particular ethnic groups. Koreans came to dominate fresh produce stands, for example. It appears that hospital staffs in some places are dominated by "low culture immigrants," "mostly women from the Caribbean (Jamaica and Haiti), Africa, and the Philippines." The author describes them as insular, defensive and not up to U.S. professional standards.

    As my friend put it, "If you get sick, are you going to go to a hospital in Haiti? Well congratulations! You don't have to. We brought the hospital staff over here!"

    The poor are ALWAYS the victims of "disparate impact" in adverse situations, like food shortages or disease crises. That's one reason people strive to get out of poverty, for Pete's sake.

    But perhaps this crisis will inspire those responsible in these hospitals to raise the standards, teach the employees different practices, and so on.
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    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    Sort of, Gramps. That statistic is plenty useful to race hustlers and left-leaning Democrats.

    I think an important factor is still unmentionable. We are too busy praising the "front line workers," always including "doctors and nurses." We honk our car horns and applaud on sidewalks.

    Meanwhile, in a nearby thread I posted an article that described deplorable standards of sanitation and professionalism in some of NYC's hospitals. A friend of mine in NY confirmed the truth of it, but it's still "not fit to print," as the Old Gray Lady would say.

    It's just a fact of NYC life that certain businesses come to be dominated by particular ethnic groups. Koreans came to dominate fresh produce stands, for example. It appears that hospital staffs in some places are dominated by "low culture immigrants," "mostly women from the Caribbean (Jamaica and Haiti), Africa, and the Philippines." The author describes them as insular, defensive and not up to U.S. professional standards.

    As my friend put it, "If you get sick, are you going to go to a hospital in Haiti? Well congratulations! You don't have to. We brought the hospital staff over here!"

    The poor are ALWAYS the victims of "disparate impact" in adverse situations, like food shortages or disease crises. That's one reason people strive to get out of poverty, for Pete's sake.

    But perhaps this crisis will inspire those responsible in these hospitals to raise the standards, teach the employees different practices, and so on.
    There is a chronic problem in health care. The hospitals/healthcare corporations claim they have to import foreign workers because there are shortages, from "environmental services" (formerly known as "housekkeeping") right up to house staff (not attendings and specialists, of course). Hence ERs everywhere staffed almost entirely by FMGs, "hospitalists" (a professional disaster created by insurance companies) who speak almost no English and issue cookie-cutter orders, and foreign LVNs and RNs working with temporary licenses and highly variable credentials and skills. Except that the "shortages" could be erased within a few years, if we were willing to do what it takes.

    Those people are here because they'll work for less and work double shifts (not work very hard, perhaps, but be present and collect the paycheck).

    When you and I were in high school, med schools, nursing schools, and often teachers' colleges offered "tuition remission" for those who qualified for admission and wanted a medical career badly enough to commit to 5 years or so of working in public health or challenging locations (medical and pedagogical) in exchange for their education. They then went on to practice (sometimes in a more comfortable environment) debt-free. Why import, retrain, and pay FMGs when we could grow our own? Take a wild guess.
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    Venezuela elderly feel 'sentenced to euthanasia' under coronavirus quarantine
    Venezuelan retirees Carlos Blanco, 81, and Olga Rodriguez, 78, have for more than a year been unable to purchase the diabetes medication they need, as the country's hyperinflation has left their monthly pensions insufficient to buy even a loaf of bread.
    The coronavirus outbreak has sparked concern around the world for the elderly, who are much more vulnerable to the COVID-19 respiratory disease caused by the virus. But the plight of senior citizens was already acute in Venezuela following six years of brutal economic crisis and chronic problems with power and water services.

    Blanco and Rodriguez, like 3 million other Venezuelan retirees, struggle to live on state pensions of 250,000 bolivars a month - the equivalent of about $3 - which can at best buy a few pounds of chicken or several kilos of corn flour.

    In a survey published in November by non-profit groups Convite and HelpAge, 77% of Venezuelans over 55 said they did not have access to enough food and one in ten said they go to bed hungry.

    The elderly "have faced a progressive decline in their living conditions: malnutrition, inability to pay for their medicine, lack of access to health, migration of their children and relatives," said Luis Cabezas, director of Convite, which focuses on human rights.

    The group estimates that at least 900,000 senior citizens are living by themselves following a migration exodus of nearly 5 million Venezuelans who have fled the economic crisis since 2015.
    • "The Constitution is not suspended in times of crisis." — AG William Barr.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.
    • "I was not elected to do small things or shy away from big problems.” —Donald Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    There is a chronic problem in health care. The hospitals/healthcare corporations claim they have to import foreign workers because there are shortages, from "environmental services" (formerly known as "housekkeeping") right up to house staff (not attendings and specialists, of course). Hence ERs everywhere staffed almost entirely by FMGs, "hospitalists" (a professional disaster created by insurance companies) who speak almost no English and issue cookie-cutter orders, and foreign LVNs and RNs working with temporary licenses and highly variable credentials and skills. Except that the "shortages" could be erased within a few years, if we were willing to do what it takes.

    Those people are here because they'll work for less and work double shifts (not work very hard, perhaps, but be present and collect the paycheck).

    When you and I were in high school, med schools, nursing schools, and often teachers' colleges offered "tuition remission" for those who qualified for admission and wanted a medical career badly enough to commit to 5 years or so of working in public health or challenging locations (medical and pedagogical) in exchange for their education. They then went on to practice (sometimes in a more comfortable environment) debt-free. Why import, retrain, and pay FMGs when we could grow our own? Take a wild guess.
    And our country does this on purpose. When my daughter went to med school, she was in a class that only accepted 7 to 9 people every year. And there were only 2 or 3 universities who offered this program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    And our country does this on purpose. When my daughter went to med school, she was in a class that only accepted 7 to 9 people every year. And there were only 2 or 3 universities who offered this program.
    It's a double con. Limiting the slots in med schools keeps the supply of specialists limited and the incomes those specialists are able to command high. That's the power of the AMA.

    Hiring FMGs and foreign-credentialed nurses and techs allows the hospital corporations to keep wages lower while crying poor and raising the patient-to-nurse ratios, saving $$$ (and reducing the quality of patient care). That's the power of giant employer conglomerates.

    The last several nursing strikes I observed when I was representing the union weren't even about wages. The nurses struck for lower patient-to-nurse ratios and better safety precautions for both staff and patients.

    Nobody - even the nurses themselves - will say it, but a nurse, LVN, tech, or even CNA who can't clearly communicate with the patient is a major, life-threatening safety hazard. Hospitals pay a differential to hire bilingual staff so they can provide quality care to patients whose first or only language isn't English, but they don't require that staff who treat patients whose first or only language [I]is[/I English be capable of speaking English clearly and fluently. That's a recipe for bad outcomes.
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    Fuck you, Gretchen. Just fuck you.

    Michigan’s updated coronavirus stay-at-home order will close garden centers and other parts of grocery stores
    By Lauren Gibbons, mlive.com

    Michigan’s stay-at-home order extension announced by Gov. Gretchen Whitmer comes with some additional restrictions intended to limit the spread of the virus - including closing off certain sections of stores allowed to remain open.

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    The new stay-at-home order, which takes effect 11:59 p.m. April 9, 2020 and runs through April 30, takes the place of the previous order and bars non-essential business and travel outside the home.

    Grocery stores and other retailers that sell food, medicine and other essentials are allowed to remain open during the stay-at-home order, although they’ll now be subject to additional occupancy restrictions and be required to shut down non-essential areas of the store, including sections dedicated to carpeting, flooring, furniture, garden centers, plant nurseries or paint.

    “If you’re not buying food or medicine or other essential items, you should not be going to the store,” Whitmer said of her decision during a Thursday news conference.

    The state now has 1,076 deaths from the virus, making it the third state to report at least 1,000 deaths, following New York and New Jersey.

    For the 11th consecutive day, Michigan is reporting more than 1,000 new confirmed cases of coronavirus. However, the 1,158 additional confirmed cases announced Thursday are the fewest new ones Michigan has seen in a single day since March 31.

    Many Michigan retailers that were allowed to remain open had already begun taking social distancing precautions, including limiting occupancy in their stores, but that is now required under the revised order.

    Large stores must limit the number of people in the store at one time to no more than 4 customers for every 1,000 square feet of customer floor space. Small stores must limit capacity to 25 percent of the total occupancy limits, including employees, under fire codes.

    If there are lines, stores will be required to establish lines with markings to ensure six feet of social distancing while customers wait to enter the store.

    The additional requirements are more restrictive than what many retailers were hoping for, said Meegan Holland, vice president of communications and marketing for the Michigan Retailers Association.

    “We certainly want to respect safe distancing CDC guidelines and we want people to be safe,” she said. “We think there are ways it can be done and still allow these retailers to bring some revenue in.”

    She said the association’s stance is that Michigan retailers should have the same rights as restaurants to safely provide goods to customers via curbside pickup or delivery, noting Amazon and other established online marketplace websites “are eating their lunch.”

    State Rep. Jim Lower, R-Greenville, called the decision to block off sections of stores “basically nonsense."

    The decision to shut down parts of stores that aren’t food and medicine comes shortly after the Michigan Farm Bureau requested the governor consider the retail sale of plants essential infrastructure, suggesting retailers were willing to comply with increased restrictions like curbside delivery.

    In recent comments to Michigan Farm Bureau publication Michigan Farm News, the bureau’s Horticulture Specialist Audrey Sebolt estimated the gardening industry could lose out on between $580 and $700 million if growers can’t sell their plants, and said people might want to turn to gardening as a way to cope with stress.

    “For many growers, if they’re not allowed to sell the plants already growing in greenhouses, it will mean a complete loss and an entire year without income for both the owners and their employees,” Sebolt said. “Our growers simply would like to be able to get their product into the hands of those who need it.”
    I saw trucks unloading flowers and veggies at Lowe's yesterday while I was picking up a shit ton of mulch.
    Ordered and paid online, curbside pickup and was never within 10 feet of another living person.

    You assholes put me out of work, then make me stay at home, and now tell me I can't plant a garden or paint my house while I am in some quasi-Nazi stay at home, shelter in place panic horseshit.

    Hopefully, but doubtfully, people will soon get fed up with this over reaction for this media and politically driven scam.

    There is not an exception in the Constitution, absent I believe declaration of martial law, that makes any of this social distance, group size, travel restriction fuckery even remotely legal at either a local, state or federal level.

    If you really, really, really, think that you will be among the current 0.0049 percent that have been declared to have died from C-Word if a single virus strand was found within a mile of where you have been in the last 4 months, then fine. Stay at home. Lock your doors, wear your masks and gloves to change the channel with the remote.

    Whatever, dude, party on.

    But I am shit sick of the political / media driven paranoia fucking with every aspect of my life.

    Are you seriously trying to tell me that curbside pickup of some paint or flats of tomatoes is a life endangering endeavor? Then stay the fuck away from Lowe's, Home Depot, Menards, and Wally World.

    Oh, and never, ever leave your house again. Because there are hundreds of little gremlins waiting out there to help you meet you maker. Might be a virus, bacteria, volcanic eruption, asteroid, drunk driver, or exasperated spouse (my current odds on favorite). Somewhere is a boogeyman with your name on his (or her) liat of things to do today.

    This is getting beyond fucking stupid. This is now becoming about control of how we live. As the government demands it. And the sheeple buy into it.

    Fuck the Constitution.
    We are so fucked.

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    And this is one of the dumbfucks as we speak...



    Hey, Chuck. Yes you, fucking moron loser.

    You want to tell me where I can go, what I can buy, where I can work, and in general run every facet of my life that you can by invoking panic over this horseshit.

    And you can't even figure out how to wear A FUCKING MASK!

    It's not rocket surgery. You put it over your NOSE and your MOUTH.

    This is the imbecilism (may not be a word but it is now) that gets elected over and over and over because people think this vacuous bird brain, and many more like him, are somehow qualified to tell me how to run my life.


    Well, fuck you Chuckie. At least I know how to put on a mask.
    We are so fucked.

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    We are so fucked.

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    Read it. Yes that is Sheila Jackoff Lee. She is ON A FUCKING "TASK FORCE". For the ChiComFlu.

    WE PAY THIS WOMAN TO WORK!!!!

    This is one of the reason I think this Chink Fever cannot be as bad as reported.

    Because if it were and we had to rely on these half-twits, we are all fucking dead already.

    You can't figure out how to put on a 2 dollar mask yet you hold sway over trillions of dollars and the US economy?

    All y'all just go fuck yourselves and die already.
    We are so fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post


    Hey, Chuck. Yes you, fucking moron loser.

    You want to tell me where I can go, what I can buy, where I can work, and in general run every facet of my life that you can by invoking panic over this horseshit.

    And you can't even figure out how to wear A FUCKING MASK!

    It's not rocket surgery. You put it over your NOSE and your MOUTH.

    This is the imbecilism (may not be a word but it is now) that gets elected over and over and over because people think this vacuous bird brain, and many more like him, are somehow qualified to tell me how to run my life.


    Well, fuck you Chuckie. At least I know how to put on a mask.
    Imbecility, since you asked. Otherwise, +1.
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