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    So Joe plays the race card...

    Channeling his inner Rachael Dolezal

    If the presidential election comes down to President Donald Trump or Joe Biden, the former vice president said the choice is a no-brainer for black people.

    Biden told The Breakfast Club radio host Charlamagne Tha God on Friday morning, "If you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black." When the host responded it wasn't about him or Trump, it was about "wanting something for my community," the vice president encouraged him to "take a look at my record."
    I sometimes wonder which is more embarrassing in politics, Joe's mouth or Trump's thumbs.
    We are so fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    Channeling his inner Rachael Dolezal



    I sometimes wonder which is more embarrassing in politics, Joe's mouth or Trump's thumbs.
    I had too look this character up
    Charlamagne tha God aka Lenard Larry McKelvey

    McKelvey was born to Larry Thomas McKelvey, a Jehovah's Witness-turned-Muslim[4] and his wife, an English teacher and Jehovah's Witness,[5][4][6] on June 29, 1978,[7] and grew up in Moncks Corner, South Carolina.[8] As a teenager, McKelvey began selling drugs, and was arrested twice for possession of marijuana and cocaine with intent to distribute. After witnessing a shooting from the back seat of a car, McKelvey was arrested for a third time. His father refused to pay his bail money, and McKelvey remained in jail for 41 days. Eventually, he called his mother, who paid for his bail and McKelvey was released.

    I expect the Revernd Wright to surface next.
    Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
    and lost …
    But the Republicans are racist.

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    I can only imagine the media outcry had Trump said that if you vote for Biden, then you ain't white.



    We are so fucked.

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    Apologizing and back peddling. Taking a lot of flak.
    If it pays, it stays

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    To some degree, this is the fault of black leadership. Blacks went from being all Republicans to all Democrats with not a lot of people voicing moderation or skepticism for either party.

    Blacks actually are pretty much as diverse as whites in terms of their interests and conditions (despite what the race-baiters would say). Some are wealthy, some are poor, some are criminals, some are saints, educations vary from Ivy League to none, family styles vary, values run the gamut, and experiences are all across the board in all areas.

    There's no more one monolithic black identity than there is one monolithic female identity. Both blacks and women shouldn't fear having divergent views and they shouldn't have their race or sex cards revoked if somebody doesn't like their views.

    Both black and (all too often) female leadership is more about some weird tribalism than any useful progress. Maybe this will help convince blacks that it's "okay" to vote for a non-Democrat. I don't even care if they vote for Trump or not. Just vote common sense as it relates to you and to your entire community, not just your tribe.
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbit View Post
    Apologizing and back peddling. Taking a lot of flak.
    Rightly so.

    But I don't know that anything will come of this. The media is already in its "move along, folks" mode. Shut up.

    I can only hope it seeps into the awareness that has fueled things like the Blexit movement. Biden's remark is simply a condescending insult that can't be erased.

    It can't be erased partly because Joe has a long history of such insensitive, patronizing comments. And because the attitude is essentially true of his circle of elite white folks in the Democratic Party.

    I had an English teacher in high school, a very, very liberal white woman, who in fact won at least one prestigious award late in life for her "tireless work for civil rights." But at home, casually, which I know because students often visited (she had a son my age), she would refer to black people as "the nigs."

    I wonder now if there was some point, or some event, at which she felt baptized in some way, or inoculated, such that she was henceforth entitled to say "the nigs" in private. Even then neither I nor any classmates I knew would adopt that cute bit of racist lingo for our own use.
    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    At the Trump site:

    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    But I don't know that anything will come of this. The media is already in its "move along, folks" mode. Shut up.
    Newbusters examines this:

    ABC, CBS, NBC Average a Minute on Joe Biden's 'You Ain't Black' Gaffe
    . . . Between the three evening newscasts, there was 187 seconds of coverage, or about a minute each. ABC and CBS turned to political reporters, but NBC anchor Lester Holt dismissed the whole thing in 21 seconds.

    ....

    ABC and CBS both “balanced” Biden’s gaffe with bad news for Trump. ABC’s Mary Bruce ran down a list of Trump’s apparently racist statements, and CBS’s Ed O’Keefe dragged out their polling showing Biden was winning black voters by a score of 90 percent to three percent.

    As Fox News reported, CNN waited 12 hours on Friday to notice the story, until CNN host Erin Burnett interviewed Charlamagne at the end of her 7 pm hour. MSNBC and Fox News covered the story all day long. MSNBC’s black journalists and analysts, from Trymaine Lee to Rev. Al Sharpton, were critical of a white man judging blackness, but CNN just couldn’t muster itself.

    PBS NewsHour gave the Biden controversy about 2 and a half minutes during their Shields and Brooks Week in Review segment, but that was a small piece of their 13-minute discussion, which was typically loaded with Trump-bashing.

    NPR’s All Things Considered at least considered Biden’s remark in a five-minute segment with two of their political reporters. Anchor Mary Louise Kelly summed up that “Biden's approach through the campaign so far has not been about stirring up, firing up the base of the Democratic Party. He's tried to present himself as a centrist, as the unifying candidate.”
    and brings up a handy comparison:
    By comparison, when the story broke on September 17, 2012, that Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney said he would never convince 47 percent of the electorate to vote for him, the same Big Three networks gave than almost an hour and a half over three full days (1 hour, 28 minutes, 23 seconds).
    And the big guns come out in Biden's defense, including the inimitable Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee:
    "That was not what the vice president said in terms of those words, and if we had listened to the earlier conversation, we would know that the vice president wants to put his record forward. He knows that everyone has their own historical, moral standing on the color of their skin," Lee said. "He also believes in the history of our people, and I don't believe, in any way, that he undermined who we are and what we are."
    And the 1619 fraudster Nikole Hannah-Jones:
    “There is a difference between being politically black and being racially black,” tweeted Ms. Hannah-Jones. “I am not defending anyone, but we all know this and should stop pretending that we don’t.”
    Pretty smooth, this last. It's a "True Scotsman" false argument meant to parallel to the time-tested distinction between "cultural Jews" and "religious Jews." But it's just another rendition of the "authenticity" canard, cover for the "Oreo" epithet, the crime of "acting white."


    That's some serious pretzel work, meaning Biden's blunder cut to the bone.
    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    That's some serious pretzel work, meaning Biden's blunder cut to the bone.
    Oh gosh. where in the world is a soft pretzel with mustard when its needed...…………...

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