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    Classic Star Trek

    I watched an episode of the original series today. At some point in reruns I'm sure I've seen them all but the memories were fuzzy. I liked the series in syndication but I was never a Trekkie.

    Sure, the effects were cheesy and most of the acting involved chewing scenery but it was surprisingly satisfying. The story was good (if the plot was thin), there was almost no pointless dialog, the pacing was good, and the direction of the story was clear. I was mildly surprised by the small L libertarian elements. I didn't really remember that.

    Did you watch this either first run or in syndication? How did you think it compared to the Star Trek: Next Generation? If you don't like TV sci fi, why is that?
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    The series on Netflix has had the space scenes redone and they look pretty good. The Doomsday Machine is an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandersnatch45 View Post
    The series on Netflix has had the space scenes redone and they look pretty good. The Doomsday Machine is an example.

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    Sadly, no Netflix here so I have zero idea of what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    I watched an episode of the original series today. At some point in reruns I'm sure I've seen them all but the memories were fuzzy. I liked the series in syndication but I was never a Trekkie.

    Sure, the effects were cheesy and most of the acting involved chewing scenery but it was surprisingly satisfying. The story was good (if the plot was thin), there was almost no pointless dialog, the pacing was good, and the direction of the story was clear. I was mildly surprised by the small L libertarian elements. I didn't really remember that.

    Did you watch this either first run or in syndication? How did you think it compared to the Star Trek: Next Generation? If you don't like TV sci fi, why is that?
    I like Star Trek. I tolerate SNG. Loved Voyager except for the overuse of religious BS (chakote mostly) - naturally.

    I do find it interesting that other planets seem to have one or two ethnicities, less than democratic governing councils, and a lifestyle resembling a high tech Bedrock.

    CAn someone explain to me why it's not ridiculous that species without manual dexterity have the ability to build superior ships and weapons?

    Favorites: Kai Winn, Seven of Nine, Odo, Janeway (because she was on Ryan's Hope), Weyoun, and Whoopi Goldberg.

    Dislike- Picard, Neelix, Riker, Tasha Yar, Belanna Torres, Harry Kim, new Vulcan, and most hated of all ... Kess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post

    Favorites: Kai Winn, Seven of Nine, Odo, Janeway (because she was on Ryan's Hope), Weyoun, and Whoopi Goldberg.

    Dislike- Picard, Neelix, Riker, Tasha Yar, Belanna Torres, Harry Kim, new Vulcan, and most hated of all ... Kess
    I thought Picard was okay and most of the aliens were okay. Her name escapes me but I hated the empath in the painted-on outfit. And her mother. Who didn't hate Wesley? Worf was fine as was the Engineering guy. Odo was good.

    I liked New Generation overall but I have to admit that I lost interest as subsequent series happened. It became increasingly post modern so no one was ever 'right' or justified in anyway. You might lead your own life in that manner (although I don't advise it) but it makes for boring TV scripts.

    I sort got over my interest in what amounts to teen angst when I stopped being a teen. I liked this classic episode because there was almost none of that. Nobody was wringing their hands over irrelevant existential or emotional issues/traumas. When your culture is completely saturated with that stuff, it's refreshing to see something that skips it.

    I guess that's why I mostly read hard sci fi. I don't need another 'compare/contrast' this super idyllic society with the average human functioning in Average Town, U.S.A.

    I've seen all those Twilight Zone episodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I like Star Trek. I tolerate SNG. Loved Voyager except for the overuse of religious BS (chakote mostly) - naturally.

    I do find it interesting that other planets seem to have one or two ethnicities, less than democratic governing councils, and a lifestyle resembling a high tech Bedrock.

    CAn someone explain to me why it's not ridiculous that species without manual dexterity have the ability to build superior ships and weapons?

    Favorites: Kai Winn, Seven of Nine, Odo, Janeway (because she was on Ryan's Hope), Weyoun, and Whoopi Goldberg.

    Dislike- Picard, Neelix, Riker, Tasha Yar, Belanna Torres, Harry Kim, new Vulcan, and most hated of all ... Kess
    I watch Star Trek a LOT, mostly in midnight reruns. It was a Western in a space ship.

    The Next Generation was a favorite of mine when it was new. It ran into plot sludge well before its run ended, unfortunately.

    Q and the Borg were my favorite ideas. I still occasionally refer to Hillary Clinton as the Borg Queen.

    Wesley was also a favorite of mine for no good reason. His character wandered around in the series, but I don't think he deserved the flak fandom dished out at him.

    I was happy to see Wil Wheaton on The Big Bang Theory occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    I thought Picard was okay and most of the aliens were okay. Her name escapes me but I hated the empath in the painted-on outfit. And her mother. Who didn't hate Wesley? Worf was fine as was the Engineering guy. Odo was good.

    I liked New Generation overall but I have to admit that I lost interest as subsequent series happened. It became increasingly post modern so no one was ever 'right' or justified in anyway. You might lead your own life in that manner (although I don't advise it) but it makes for boring TV scripts.

    I sort got over my interest in what amounts to teen angst when I stopped being a teen. I liked this classic episode because there was almost none of that. Nobody was wringing their hands over irrelevant existential or emotional issues/traumas. When your culture is completely saturated with that stuff, it's refreshing to see something that skips it.

    I guess that's why I mostly read hard sci fi. I don't need another 'compare/contrast' this super idyllic society with the average human functioning in Average Town, U.S.A.

    I've seen all those Twilight Zone episodes.
    Troy. Rhymes with Oi.

    She and her mother ruined more episodes than I can remember.

    Data was another favorite of mine. It was years before someone pointed out to me that he never used contractions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    Troy. Rhymes with Oi.

    She and her mother ruined more episodes than I can remember.

    Data was another favorite of mine. It was years before someone pointed out to me that he never used contractions.
    That was it! Very striking looking but her role was just pointless (as was Whoopi's). They were just there to provide a sort of fake foil for logical dilemmas among the crew.

    The actress who played Troi was of Greek parentage and born in England. Her natural accent is Cockney but the Star Trek people had her develop a more exotic manner of speaking. I though that was interesting.

    She still looks pretty good.
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    I agree with Newman: it was essentially a Western set in space. I was never a Trekkie, and lost interest before any of the sequels came along. I disliked Troi and saw one episode with Whoopi, which was fun.
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    Ignore the cheesy music, this is a, very quick, visual overview of some of the remastered changes to the look of the sets and the space scenes.

    https://youtu.be/u4VRcT6DSRA

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