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    'Just say women': American Cancer Society is slammed for saying 'individuals with a cervix' instead of 'women' in their latest pap test guidance

    'Just say women': American Cancer Society is slammed for saying 'individuals with a cervix' instead of 'women' in their latest pap test guidance

    The American Cancer Society has been slammed for advice telling 'individuals with a cervix' to go for cancer screenings, rather than 'women'

    The phrase is more inclusive, because transgender, non-binary and gender-nonconforming individuals can also have a cervix

    By HARRIET ALEXANDER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

    PUBLISHED: 11:03 EDT, 31 July 2020 | UPDATED: 15:26 EDT, 31 July 2020

    The American Cancer Society has been slammed for using the phrase 'individuals with a cervix' in its latest pap screening advice, rather than women.

    Cervical cancer screening is now recommended to start at 25, instead of 21, and HPV testing should begin at 25 rather than 30.

    But in updating its advice, the ACS used 'individuals with a cervix', rather than 'women' in their guidance, because transgender, non-binary and gender-nonconforming individuals can also have a cervix.

    The phrasing was ridiculed online, with one Twitter user saying: 'Individuals with a cervix is a long way to just say women.'

    The ACS used 'individuals with a cervix', rather than 'women' in their guidance because transgender, non-binary and gender-nonconforming individuals can also have a cervix.

    Blogger Matt Walsh told his 410,000 followers: 'I'm pretty sure there's a word for these individuals but I can't be certain.'

    Stephen Pollard, editor of the Jewish Chronicle, sarcastically asked how he knew if the guidelines applied to him.

    'How do I find out if I have a cervix? Do I need a scan? Or is there some sort of general concept that identified individuals with a cervix?' he tweeted.

    Some people, however, leapt to the defense of the ACS and CNN.

    They argued that it was 'the correct way to phrase that statement' to make it inclusive and inoffensive.
    We have people who believe they are "really" foxes or ponies but we don't take them to the Vet for their medical care or examine them for diseases common to those animals. Sex is a biological reality that can be readily determined by a cursory naked examination and verified by DNA tests. Anyone using those means (scientific means) will always arrive at the same result for an individual unless their eyes or test kits are defective.

    Genetically indeterminate individuals (vanishingly rare compared to the population) have medical issues that go way beyond what a GP can handle and don't need to be part of any general advice handed out by any entity. In any case, they are well aware of the specialized treatment and concerns of their condition. Neither do covert genetic anomalies fall into general advice. If they are concerned about their fertility they will be diagnosed eventually.

    Women did this to ourselves by constantly ceding language, importance, and rights to delusional men or women who now claim to speak for all women and who now control how biological females will be treated in many areas.

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    Piper identifies as a human and has a better vocabulary than some people I have met or worked.

    I should be able to get her covered on my insurance and take her to our family doctor. They are a lot closer than the vet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    Piper identifies as a human and has a better vocabulary than some people I have met or worked.

    I should be able to get her covered on my insurance and take her to our family doctor. They are a lot closer than the vet.
    I'd be thrilled if I could add Jem and Rita to my Kaiser policy. the human ER is also cheaper than the emergency vet. I've never gotten out of the EV for less than $600, and Jem is too old to insure, even though hes generally healthy.
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    JFC...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Women did this to ourselves by constantly ceding language, importance, and rights to delusional men or women who now claim to speak for all women and who now control how biological females will be treated in many areas.
    This sort of thing always works to the disadvantage of women, or any other group such an artifice pretends to champion.

    Someday we'll rediscover common sense as captured in the famous (infamous) bon mot from a long-ago Frenchman, "Vive la différence!"

    Not in my lifetime, maybe, which according to a typo has about 96 years to go.
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    From Newman:

    This sort of thing always works to the disadvantage of women, or any other group such an artifice pretends to champion.
    This.

    Women have been tricked into severely overestimating their actual power and physical security (in many ways).
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    I accept that some are transgender, but I don't see a problem with just saying women. Yes, there's always "an exception" to everything.
    With over 157K deaths to COVID-19, these Chinese sending us seeds to hurt us, and expecting kids to practice social distancing in school in ways adults can't, welcome to level eight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I accept that some are transgender, but I don't see a problem with just saying women. Yes, there's always "an exception" to everything.
    The problem is: they are not. They do NOT have a cervix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I accept that some are transgender, but I don't see a problem with just saying women. Yes, there's always "an exception" to everything.
    I think the point is, Everything you say is wrong.
    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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