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    Huge Dump Of Articles And Videos Showing Arsonists To Blame – Not Climate Change – For Fires On The West Coast

    Huge Dump Of Articles And Videos Showing Arsonists To Blame – Not Climate Change – For Fires On The West Coast


    There's a lot of information at this link so you'll have to look for yourself to decide what's what but it's very interesting. There has evidence of arson in many western fires but the information is scattered and the media appears uninterested in following up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Huge Dump Of Articles And Videos Showing Arsonists To Blame – Not Climate Change – For Fires On The West Coast


    There's a lot of information at this link so you'll have to look for yourself to decide what's what but it's very interesting. There has evidence of arson in many western fires but the information is scattered and the media appears uninterested in following up.

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    Liberal media are calling all of this "fake news." Meanwhile, I think Biden's got the wrong villains in mind with his "climate arsonist" bit.

    I saw author Michael Shellenberger on TV take easy shots at this clay pigeon. Besides cracking wise that apparently climate change stops at the Canadian border, he observed that there were a number of forests in the fire zone that are well managed, and the fires reach them and die. They quickly become small brush fires and are easily put out.

    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    Well, who are you gonna believe? Eye witnesses and physical evidence or the media?

    This stuff is really a twofer: people are being caught setting fires or there is physical evidence of arson AND forest management sucks in a lot of places. Healthy, well managed forests are difficult to burn - there's just not enough fuel to sustain really massive fires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Well, who are you gonna believe? Eye witnesses and physical evidence or the media?

    This stuff is really a twofer: people are being caught setting fires or there is physical evidence of arson AND forest management sucks in a lot of places. Healthy, well managed forests are difficult to burn - there's just not enough fuel to sustain really massive fires.
    I don't know, but the mismanagement is so well documented and of such long duration that I'd imagine the victims have a case to make in court.

    In my opinion the lax policies of the current crop of politicians and prosecutors are liable also, but they're almost invulnerable, I do know.

    Man arrested for igniting brushfire in Portland, starts SIX MORE fires in less than 12 hours after release – police
    Portland police arrested a man for starting a fire with a molotov cocktail and released him, only to take him into custody again the next day for allegedly setting six more fires.

    Domingo Lopez Jr., 45, was booked into the Multnomah County Detention Center on Sunday evening after police discovered a blaze set on the side of a freeway. A witness identified the suspect, who admitted to police that he’d set the fire.

    Lopez Jr. used a molotov cocktail, a plastic bottle with a wick, to ignite the blaze. He was charged with reckless burning and disorderly conduct in the second degree, and was released without bail.
    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele View Post
    I'm always curious about the person who makes a video of that sort.
    • “Weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis." — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, blaming Trump.
    • "We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing." —Joe Biden, explaining the Creator.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." —Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” —Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." —CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    On private property, anyone found deliberately setting a fire to a building or in a way clearly meant to destroy buildings or crops or trees or to injure stock ought to be open to being shot by the landowner or any interested person.

    Fire is not like the movies. There isn't unlimited time, air, or vision to escape. I wish every person could be forced to watch a live flashover demonstration. There is no time. If you don't get out some other way, you are not getting out. You certainly aren't dragging Gramma, the baby, and Fluffly out.

    Every fire protection material in your home exists for only one purpose: to buy you time to exit. Time you had better have thought about using well in advance. How confident are you that you can deploy a fire ladder or strap a screaming toddler in a sling to lower them from upstairs? Did you make the older kids practice how to use the ladder? Because right that minute is not the time to find out your 11 year old is afraid of heights. Did that sullen teen in the basement really listen to you when you demonstrated how to open the fire escape windows (if you even have them)? Does he/she know not to open the upstairs door?

    For most people, the answer to all these questions is "No".

    Arson fires can't be controlled by the criminal or the victims if there is enough fuel. Your home, your office, and a shocking lot of places are loaded with materials that are highly toxic when burned. No, you will not be able to hold your breath when panicking. Humans are hard-wired to run and hide from uncontrolled fires which generally kills them in structures.

    Arsonists need to be shot on sight. Anytime, anywhere.

    Pro tip: Want to keep your 4 year old from becoming an accidental arsonist in your home? Buy a big box of wooden matches, fill a bucket halfway up with water, clear your schedule for an hour or two, take the kid outside with a chair. Show the kid how to strike a match. It'll take her about 10 minutes to get it right but she will be delighted!

    Now, settle in and make the kid light and extinguish every single match. Unless your kid is a genuine psycho, about 20 minutes in this will become boring. About 30 minutes in it will become genuinely painful. At the the hour mark, the kid should be begging and maybe crying to stop.

    They may retain an interest in watching fire in a fireplace or grill but they'll lose a lot of interest in setting any and they will automatically associate water (not bedclothes or closets) with extinguishing them.

    Did I mention killing arsonists anywhere you see one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    I'm always curious about the person who makes a video of that sort.
    I just figured it was a street cam he didn't noticed.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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