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    Twitter may well end up being little more than a somewhat refined version of Dumbocratic Underground.
    We are so fucked.

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    Satire or prediction???

    U.S.—After Facebook C.E.O. Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter C.E.O. Jack Dorsey removed President Trump from their social media platforms, President Elect Joe Biden was quick to add the two Silicon Valley tycoons to his cabinet to head the newly formed Ministry of Truth Department.

    “They’ve been the best allies we have in the fight against disinformation, misinformation, malinformation, and pretty much any information out there,” Biden said at a press conference Saturday.

    “Under the Biden administration, we’re only going to have true facts, and these guys are really the only people on the planet who know what true facts are,” he said.

    Zuckerberg and Dorsey signed on right away. “We’ve already been working for the Democratic Party in an unofficial capacity for years,” Dorsey Tweeted. “This just makes it formal.”

    One of the first tasks of the new federal department will be to toss all things Donald trump into the memory hole.

    “We need to move on from Trump andby that we mean removing him and his presidency from history,” Dorsey said.
    We are so fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    Or the other way around.

    Sadly, they are not covered by the 1st Amendment, but should not be exempt from liability for content if they're going to control it. Make them liable for defamation, conspiracy, etc., and see what tune they sing.
    Anti-trust legislation needs to be fashioned to suit. It's as if, back in 1776, one hyper-partisan publisher came to control 95% of all printed material in the colonies. Of course that was a physical impossibility at the time, but the ability of one (or a very few) publishers to control speech in such a way would be absurd. Still is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    Well, in fact, I don't want them liable. I want them to stop deciding what we see (if we choose to frequent such platforms). This should be the technological equivalent of traditional public forum, the town square, as it were, and subject only

    In fact, there is some to the traditional limitations thereon. But if these companies decide to regulate what they publish, they become the equivalent of newspapers, and should then be responsible for their content to the extent such publications have been so under standard Constitutional analysis.

    Yellow journalism is one thing, and inevitable in a free press. Monopoly is a different animal.

    There actually is some precedent for requiring private spaces to allow free speech, on the grounds that such spaces (specifically, shopping centers, IIRC) are the modern equivalent of the "town square."

    ETA: Ah yes. Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins, 447 U.S. 74 (1980). Damn, law school was a long time ago! Had to look that one up.


    But who names their shopping center "Pruneyard"? Is that like Barfbay Shopping Center or Mucus Mall"
    • "An iron curtain has descended across the continent." — Winston Churchill, March 5, 1946.
    • "Are you going to be responsible for the rioting if we hear this case?" — Chief Justice Roberts, who apparently had a secret codicil to his oath of office.
    • "Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate." — Texas State House Rep. Terry Meza, proposing to bar "castle defense" protection for victims of home invasions.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    Anti-trust legislation needs to be fashioned to suit. It's as if, back in 1776, one hyper-partisan publisher came to control 95% of all printed material in the colonies. Of course that was a physical impossibility at the time, but the ability of one (or a very few) publishers to control speech in such a way would be absurd. Still is.



    But who names their shopping center "Pruneyard"? Is that like Barfbay Shopping Center or Mucus Mall"
    A suburb of San Jose.
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    You are a toad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    Problem is that obviously, Big Tech also has Big Bucks and like any other conglomerate will either buy out competitors or buy off politicians to make sure their status remains unchallenged.

    Yes, there are currently alternatives like Parler, Rumble, and Gab that have a more conservative bent but there are already calls from congresscritters as well as Democrat(ic) sycophants to have their apps pulled from Google and Apple for aiding and abetting treason, sedition and insurrection based on last Friday.
    Anything one can do with an app, one can do with a mobile web page. Let the private platforms slit their own throats. They can't censor mobile websites.

    Perhaps Google has gotten too big and too entrenched. That's okay, Sears & Roebuck innovated, stagnated, and then lost out to Sam Walton's new way of doing things.
    "What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer."

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    Well, that didn't really work out.

    But get ready for the Biden shitshow.

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    We are so fucked.

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