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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Going out without a mask on? You can easily go out. Going to a restaurant, a convenience store or the gym without a mask is quite a different thing. Are you saying a revolt is brewing? Count me in.

    When Dopey claims we are going to be masked up for another year, something has to give.
    And more masks than ever, right? 1 in 2020; 2 in 2021? In 2022 just pull a plastic bag over your head and flatten the curve completely.

    I think people will shuck it off.

    Today I went to a pet food store (PetSmart) that requires masks, and I've never seen anyone being defiant inside the store. But today I saw two customers not wearing a mask, and receiving no special attention from anyone. Both were women with tiny dogs.

    I do believe vaccinated people will push against this mask-wearing theater.

    I expect to get the shot next week or so, and the follow up will be sometime in March. By then I think the whole picture will be clearer.
    • "An iron curtain has descended across the continent." — Winston Churchill, March 5, 1946. But that was then, and somewhere else.
    • "Are you going to be responsible for the rioting if we hear this case?" — Chief Justice Roberts, who apparently had a secret codicil to his oath of office.
    • "Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate." — Texas State House Rep. Terry Meza, proposing to bar "castle defense" protection for victims of home invasions.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    And more masks than ever, right? 1 in 2020; 2 in 2021? In 2022 just pull a plastic bag over your head and flatten the curve completely.

    I think people will shuck it off.

    Today I went to a pet food store (PetSmart) that requires masks, and I've never seen anyone being defiant inside the store. But today I saw two customers not wearing a mask, and receiving no special attention from anyone. Both were women with tiny dogs.

    I do believe vaccinated people will push against this mask-wearing theater.

    I expect to get the shot next week or so, and the follow up will be sometime in March. By then I think the whole picture will be clearer.
    It doesn't hurt that the infection rate is collapsing.

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    A good essay in The Federalist a few days ago:

    I’d Like To Tell The Health Experts Where They Can Shove Their Second Mask
    Kylee Zempel, Feb. 12.
    That’s it, the mask Karens are really getting on my nerves. I’m not talking about the woman in the grocery store who lectures you in the bread aisle from 10 feet away that you’re wearing your mask incorrectly — although she’s ticking me off too.

    I’m talking about so-called health experts who change their minds on the “science” faster than you can say “hydroxychloroquine,” and the Big Tech oligarchs, corporate media bullies, and power-grabbing government tyrants who fall at their feet. I’m talking about the ones who are now encouraging you to cover your face with a second mask.
    How did we go from “15 days to slow the spread” to Fauci saying, a year and two vaccine developments later, that we still can’t take our masks off until the virus “is not a threat at all,” which we are “not near”?
    An Obvious Path to a Second Mask

    A look back over the antics of the past year shed some light on how we got here. While Nancy Pelosi was off to the salon getting a nonessential blowout and Gavin Newsom was yucking it up with other members of the ruling class indoors without a mask, most Americans were canceling their holiday travel plans, staying home from church, and choking on stale mask air between bites at restaurants.

    It’s not that skeptical Americans didn’t fight back. They hosted lockdown protests and some refused to relegate church to Zoom. Others wore their masks around their necks or not at all in a show of reasonable defiance. But to what end?

    Big Tech issued warnings or nuked content when dissenters cut against conventional wisdom. Airlines kicked parents and even toddlers off planes if they refused to wear a mask with multiple layers. “No shoes, no shirt, no mask, no entry,” became the standard of many private businesses.

    After some weak initial resistance, even freedom-loving Americans weary of their leaders shut up and masked up because they were sick of the Karens and the tyrants and the threats of service denial everywhere they turned. The mask overlords got away with their petty authoritarianism, and it emboldened them.
    Trust the Science?

    Learn from the past; don’t wear a second mask. Not only will it reinforce to our politicos that their every wish is our command, but it is also anti-science.

    “Observations during SARS suggested double-masking and other practices increased the risk of infection because of moisture, liquid diffusion and pathogen retention,” a group of scientists concluded after a randomized trial, publishing their findings in BMJ Open in March 2015, long before the our current politicized plight. “These effects may be associated with cloth masks” (the types of masks we’re all wearing now).

    In fact, if we care about science, we’ll stop letting the same people who have tanked our economy, kept our kids home from school, and banished us from churches dictate our lives for one more minute. So much of the nonsense that has poured out of their mouths, over the airwaves, and into our homes and institutions these past many months has proved to be utter hogwash — about masks, “flattening the curve,” nursing homes, schools, “essential” versus “nonessential” businesses, the vaccine, and getting “back to normal.” The rules served corporatists’ interests, not public health or the general welfare. . . .
    COVID is real. But so are the coronavirus hypocrites, and they feed on your fear. They’ve denied the science for the past year to control you, and until Americans stop playing their games, there will be no end to the madness.
    • "An iron curtain has descended across the continent." — Winston Churchill, March 5, 1946. But that was then, and somewhere else.
    • "Are you going to be responsible for the rioting if we hear this case?" — Chief Justice Roberts, who apparently had a secret codicil to his oath of office.
    • "Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate." — Texas State House Rep. Terry Meza, proposing to bar "castle defense" protection for victims of home invasions.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.


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    After some weak initial resistance, even freedom-loving Americans weary of their leaders shut up and masked up because they were sick of the Karens and the tyrants and the threats of service denial everywhere they turned. The mask overlords got away with their petty authoritarianism, and it emboldened them.
    How very true. A FEW - handfull- of places don't have the mask mafia. Round these parts the Target and 7-11s don't.
    Businesses just are ruining themselves. Order on line instead of going into their stores. Don't these stores know that......................

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    The acoustics must really suck...

    We are so fucked.

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