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Thread: Trump defends judge attack: He's 'of Mexican heritage, I'm building a wall'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    You should watch that video and just listen to him try and make sense.
    May as well ask a gerbil to use calculus and trigonometry to explain to me the sound of the color chartreuse.

    But it will be tremendous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    How is this not racist?
    I get that "racist" is shorthand, but "Mexican" is not a race. It's prejudiced, it's biased, it's rude, it's inflammatory, it's offensive and stupid. But unless you (or he) equate "Mexican" to "Indio," it's not racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele View Post
    I'll paraphrase: Gary said these kind of statements were nothing new. You disagreed and said no candidates said things like this since before the 60's. Then examples were given. You then pivoted over to a new line about justifying Trump's remarks instead of saying that Gary was correct. The End.
    No, He's talking about zippy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    I would say they are certainly prejudicial and most likely bigoted.
    But this is hardly plowing new ground for Presidential candidates from either party, wouldn't you agree?
    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    I would not agree. Not in the modern era. If you want to compare him with candidates prior to the 60's, yeah, he's right in line with a lot of bigots.
    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    Nothing prejudicial or bigoted in that comment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    It's far less bigoted than accusing a specific person of being unfit to do their job because of the nationality of their parents.
    So now it is a matter of degree of bigotry? "We don't have bigots but what bigots we have are less bigoted than your bigots"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    So now it is a matter of degree of bigotry? "We don't have bigots but what bigots we have are less bigoted than your bigots"
    No. It's a matter of Republican versus Democrat. Centerists are always more nuanced that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    So now it is a matter of degree of bigotry? "We don't have bigots but what bigots we have are less bigoted than your bigots"
    No, now it's a matter of how obvious does Trump have to get with his bigotry before some of you folks will admit that Trump is either a huge bigot or he's playing to bigots.

    You claimed it's nothing out of the ordinary for presidential candidates. I disagree. It's out of the ordinary (or "plowing new ground" as you put it). Claiming Mexico is sending their society's most unwanted to the United States is out of the ordinary. Demanding that the judge presiding over his case recuse himself because he's "of Mexican heritage" is out of the ordinary. Carrying on the ridiculous birth certificate conspiracy theory long after everyone realized it was ridiculous is out of the ordinary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    I was beginning to wonder if anyone was going to try to justify Trump's comments.
    Why shouldn't I? If the judge is human, he can be influenced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    Why shouldn't I? If the judge is human, he can be influenced.

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    Never said you shouldn't. You're just the first. Everyone else decided to play "Democrats have done just as bad" instead of trying to make out that this isn't bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    No. It's a matter of Republican versus Democrat. Centerists are always more nuanced that way.
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    No. It's a matter of Republican versus Democrat. Centerists are always more nuanced that way.
    Always back to the same rut.

    Quote Originally Posted by phillygirl View Post
    How is that a slap in the face? Seriously, I don't get it.

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