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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    It is more than that. It seems that every disagreement where the parties do not share the same ethnicity, particularly political, is now racist to the point where the word really has no objective meaning. This is not limited to just D's or R's or this ethnic group or that one.
    If everything is racism, then nothing is. It trivializes those who struggled under it and fought against it.
    You may not agree, but that is your right.

    As far as what Trump is trying to do, I agree that given he is running for President, it is a stupid position to take and the best one could say is that it was poorly worded.
    But given the nature of our legal system, he is still within his rights to question the judge's impartiality no less than any other defendant in a legal case.
    Otherwise, there would be no need for change of venue or judicial recusal requests and Trump is not the first or the last to take advantage of it
    There are appropriate ways to request a recusal or a change of venue, and inappropriate ways. If Trump University's legal counsel made a request, you can bet they wish Trump would STFU, because his approach makes it very unlikely their request will be successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    Idiot. Of course I have favorites. I don't try to get my non-favorites to recuse themselves on some bogus grounds, nor do I libel them by claiming they're biased against me because of their ethnic origins (or any other BS reason).
    Then, idiot, you are NOT DOING YOUR JOB. Since your job is to get the best outcome for your client. If you aren't doing that, you aren't doing your job.

    Its like you taking a case, knowing your client is guilty, and not doing your best to represent his interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    There are appropriate ways to request a recusal or a change of venue, and inappropriate ways. If Trump University's legal counsel made a request, you can bet they wish Trump would STFU, because his approach makes it very unlikely their request will be successful.
    Not disagreeing with you, counselor.
    Just like I may have the right to yell the N word, but doing so after dark on Cass Avenue in downtown Detroit could seriously jeopardize my health and status amongst the living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    Then, idiot, you are NOT DOING YOUR JOB. Since your job is to get the best outcome for your client. If you aren't doing that, you aren't doing your job.

    Its like you taking a case, knowing your client is guilty, and not doing your best to represent hos interests.

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    I'm gonna go sit around and worry that some jackass whose entire knowledge of legal procedure comes from TV thinks I'm not doing my job. Nah, I don't think so. Fuck off.

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    (a) Impugning Qualifications and Integrity of Judges or Other Officers. A lawyer shall not make a statement that the lawyer knows to be false or with reckless disregard as to its truth or falsity concerning the qualifications or integrity of a judge, mediator, arbitrator, adjudicatory officer, public legal officer, juror or member of the venire, or candidate for election or appointment to judicial or legal office.
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    Can we please understand that people are biased. A few weeks ago, I met with my attorney about a condemnation on a property that I own. We talked about appraisals. He said "you know what bothers me? The appraisers for the state have the same comparables, the same prior sales, etc., as every other appraiser. Yet their appraisals routinely come in low while the appraisers the owner hires comes in higher."

    The "system" is what it is. Get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    I'm gonna go sit around and worry that some jackass whose entire knowledge of legal procedure comes from TV thinks I'm not doing my job. Nah, I don't think so. Fuck off.



    Link.
    Nope. Not fucking off. Go ahead and deny what I just said. Please, don't give me your shit. If you are a lawyer, then you know the schtick. And I don't have to be a lawyer to know how the world operates. I've been around the block once or twice.

    BTW, your link showed jack and shit, in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    I'm gonna go sit around and worry that some jackass whose entire knowledge of legal procedure comes from TV thinks I'm not doing my job. Nah, I don't think so. Fuck off.



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    I feel your pain.

    It's amazing how many people on these boards try to tell me about science or education.

    I presume based on websites and reruns of Glee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    I feel your pain.

    It's amazing how many people on these boards try to tell me about science or education.

    I presume based on websites and reruns of Glee.

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    You mean Room 222 and Welcome Back, Kotter do not represent the American educational system?

    I'm crushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary m View Post
    You mean Room 222 and Welcome Back, Kotter do not represent the American educational system?

    I'm crushed.
    Room 222 did. But that was back in the olden days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    The entire state of California participates in that, by its laws which provide California resident status in state colleges to such students.

    All of the law you cited refers to employment. Says nothing at all about assisting students. Unless that scholarship included a guarantee of work-study employment, it did not violate the section you quoted. Possibly some other section of which I'm unaware, but not the one you quoted.
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