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    Did Identity Politics Doom the Dems?

    The survival of the Democrats rests on immigration.

    The specter of identity politics is haunting the left. It shows up at teary-eyed election parties in Berkeley, debates over craft beers in Williamsburg and the editorial pages of the big opinion shaper papers.

    No less an icon of the left than Bernie Sanders has been grumbling that his movement needs to reconnect with working people again. He even tentatively denounced identity politics. “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.’” Bernie bears a grudge. That’s obvious. But the old Socialist has a history of spouting the old Socialist working class denunciations of immigration.

    Bernie is really arguing that the Democrats ought to emphasize class more and race less. Similar left-wing squeaks have popped up in a handful of editorials. But they aren’t likely to travel very far.

    The Democrats are losing the Rust Belt, just like they lost the South, because they have become an urban political machine. Identity politics is just urban organizing with a lot of left-wing lipstick on top. Bernie’s state is 95% white. Even Burlington hovers somewhere in the high eighties. Bernie can only organize around class because a coalition of minorities wouldn’t get him to the nearest post office.

    Identity politics beat Bernie in the Democratic primaries. But it might have cost Hillary the election. And now Trump is in a position to end the Democrats by cutting their immigration lifeline. The Dems have burned their bridges with the working class by gambling everything that they have on demographic change. If they change doesn’t materialize, then they are trapped at the dead end of a short alley.



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    Identity politics is a losing proposition. If the groups you identify with become better off, they eventually start thinking about the country, and not themselves. Then, they become conservatives.

    Identity politics can only work if you can keep those groups under control. And you can only control them by not allowing them equality.

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    LBJ

    We will keep these......
    Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
    and lost …
    But the Republicans are racist.

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    Looking at their followers as "food groups" probably didn't help.
    If it pays, it stays

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    Rest at link.
    What link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80zephyr View Post
    Identity politics is a losing proposition.
    Does anyone remember me saying this on CU in 2004? I made a big deal about it and people looked at me like I was crazy (ok, more than the normal crazy).

    The author is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott View Post
    What link?
    Poop.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2649...iel-greenfield


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    The problem with 'identity politics' is that the farther you personally get from the political/social identity, the less you use your special identity as a function of politics or social behaviors.

    I can't hang on to the "woman" identity in terms of rights because I have all the rights. What I don't have and would never expect is for men to be like me. They aren't. But mothers aren't like me, either. Lesbians aren't like me. Nuns aren't like me. Prostitutes aren't like me. There are whole universes of women who aren't like me.

    Just as it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    The problem with 'identity politics' is that the farther you personally get from the political/social identity, the less you use your special identity as a function of politics or social behaviors.

    I can't hang on to the "woman" identity in terms of rights because I have all the rights. What I don't have and would never expect is for men to be like me. They aren't. But mothers aren't like me, either. Lesbians aren't like me. Nuns aren't like me. Prostitutes aren't like me. There are whole universes of women who aren't like me.

    Just as it should be.
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