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    TSA tests using fingerprints

    TSA tests using fingerprints as boarding passes at Denver International Airport


    Why bother with a boarding pass when you’ve got your fingerprint?

    Starting Wednesday, the Transportation Security Administration will test new biometric technology that substitutes fingerprints for boarding passes and IDs at Denver International Airport and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

    The technology, which is*being tested among travelers enrolled in TSA PreCheck, matches passengers’ identities to fingerprints already on file when people applied to the fast-pass lane program. PreCheck travelers are able to pass through security with shoes and belts on, and liquids and laptops still in their carry-on bags.

    Like most people, I'm not a huge fan of the TSA.

    Will this be a good thing or a bad thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    Like most people, I'm not a huge fan of the TSA.

    Will this be a good thing or a bad thing?
    I'm not fond of the pre-check program as it bypasses much of what little security we actually have.

    But fingerprints for boarding passes are a great idea, so long as there is some sort of backup in case the scanner isn't working, or there's an argument aboard the plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    I'm not fond of the pre-check program as it bypasses much of what little security we actually have.
    It's far more effective than the current "security screening," which is really just a mechanism to make people feel good and to be a speed bump if transportation entry points have to be militarized.

    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    But fingerprints for boarding passes are a great idea, so long as there is some sort of backup in case the scanner isn't working, or there's an argument aboard the plane.

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    Yeah that part is sure to be a clusterfuck. You know the systems implemented won't be reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott View Post
    It's far more effective than the current "security screening," which is really just a mechanism to make people feel good and to be a speed bump if transportation entry points have to be militarized.
    I completely agree about security theater. It's mostly useless.

    But the pre screen provides a way to avoids even that. And while it is unlikely that a terrorist will pass the screening, if one does, then there aren't even minimal precautions to stop him.

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    We are members of Global Entry and that system uses kiosks with fingerprint scanners. It's fast and easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djharkavy View Post
    I completely agree about security theater. It's mostly useless.

    But the pre screen provides a way to avoids even that. And while it is unlikely that a terrorist will pass the screening, if one does, then there aren't even minimal precautions to stop him.

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    I disagree, there is still all sorts of monitoring and profiling. There was an early program that even explicitly stated that use of the program consented to profiling which is way more effective than some TSA agent doing the minimally accepted procedures without a clue as to how or why the protocol exists.

    NONE of the current TSA protocols will stop ANY terrorist. History shows that.
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    It's a step forward, but as we are learning, the idea that fingerprints are totally unique is actually false, and fingerprint scanners can be fooled by creative types.
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    Sounds like a great way to develop a universal fingerprint database and possibly eventually collect DNA simultaneously for a universal DNA database. Call me paranoid, but....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    Sounds like a great way to develop a universal fingerprint database and possibly eventually collect DNA simultaneously for a universal DNA database. Call me paranoid, but....
    It strikes me as just unnecessary. Yes, we should make sure that Khalid Sheikh Muhammad can't board a plane, but that's not really a genuine risk, at least to the point that we have to collect everyone's fingerprints in order to board a commercial flight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    It strikes me as just unnecessary. Yes, we should make sure that Khalid Sheikh Muhammad can't board a plane, but that's not really a genuine risk, at least to the point that we have to collect everyone's fingerprints in order to board a commercial flight.
    But if everyone signs up for the service for convenience, then they create a database.

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