Page 1 of 15 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 143

Thread: Trumpís Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clin

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Tuesday, October 22nd, 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 4:08 PM
    Posts
    7,819
    Post Thanks / Like

    Trumpís Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clin

    Trumpís Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

    President Trumpís eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

    The meeting was also attended by his campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times.

    The Times reported the existence of the meeting on Saturday. But in subsequent interviews, the advisers and others revealed the motivation behind it.

    The meeting ó at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican nomination ó points to the central question in federal investigations of the Kremlinís meddling in the presidential election: whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The accounts of the meeting represent the first public indication that at least some in the campaign were willing to accept Russian help.

    ...

    In a statement on Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. said he had met with the Russian lawyer at the request of an acquaintance. ďAfter pleasantries were exchanged,Ē he said, ďthe woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.Ē

    He said she then turned the conversation to adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The law so enraged President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that he retaliated by halting American adoptions of Russian children.

    ďIt became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting,Ē Mr. Trump said.
    Oh, did we neglect to mention that? Whoopsie.

    "What we have is something that is very, very, incredibly well-crafted."
    -President Donald J. Trump

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Wednesday, June 17th, 2015
    Last Online
    Today @ 4:54 PM
    Posts
    7,049
    Post Thanks / Like
    How any Russian votes swong the election?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Tuesday, October 22nd, 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 4:08 PM
    Posts
    7,819
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Marva View Post
    How any Russian votes swong the election?
    Yeahrn. Poin' nod tid beside.

    "What we have is something that is very, very, incredibly well-crafted."
    -President Donald J. Trump

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Tuesday, October 22nd, 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 4:08 PM
    Posts
    7,819
    Post Thanks / Like
    Donald Trump Jr. just contradicted a whole bunch of White House denials of Russian contacts

    Donald Trump Jr. acknowledged Sunday that he met with a Russian lawyer who had promised damaging information on Hillary Clinton in June 2016.

    The news, which was first reported by the New York Times, represents the most direct suggestion to date of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and it is the first indication that someone from President Trump's inner circle met with Russians during the campaign. Trump Jr. also brought then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Trump's son-in-law and now-top White House adviser Jared Kushner to the meeting.

    But the information isn't just troubling because it suggests the Trump campaign sought out the help of Russians to win the presidency. It also contradicts a number of claims made by the White House, the campaign and Trump Jr. himself ó claims made as recently as this weekend. For an administration and campaign that have repeatedly denied contact with Russians and had their denials blow up in their faces, it's yet another dubious chapter.

    Let's recap all the times they suggested this kind of thing never happened.

    1) Trump Jr. on Saturday: The meeting was about Russian adoption

    ...

    2) Trump Jr. in March: No meetings ďrepresenting the campaignĒ with Russians

    ...

    3) President-elect Trump in January: No contact between Trump associates and Russia during campaign

    ...

    4) Hope Hicks: "No communication" with a foreign entity

    ...

    5) Kellyanne Conway in December: ďAbsolutely notĒ on contact with Russians trying to meddle

    ...

    6) Vice President Pence in January: ďOf course notĒ

    ...

    7) Spicer in February: Doesn't change Trump's January statement

    ...

    8) Trump Jr. in July 2016: Suggestions that Russians tried to help Trump are ďliesĒ
    Why, we would never collude, that's preposterous. Sure, we'd show up on a meeting on the premise of collusion, but she didn't have anything. That's fine, right?

    "What we have is something that is very, very, incredibly well-crafted."
    -President Donald J. Trump

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Wednesday, October 2nd, 2013
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Fort Worth, TX
    Posts
    8,013
    Post Thanks / Like
    Those licks of orange inside that billowing smoke you see is fire.
    .

    "The fundamental driver of Western civilization is the agreement that objective reality exists, that people of goodwill can perceive it and that other people will change their views when presented with the facts of the matter."

    ~ From Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom by Thomas E. Ricks

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Friday, November 1st, 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 4:09 PM
    Posts
    3,004
    Post Thanks / Like

    Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire!

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jingo View Post
    Those licks of orange inside that billowing smoke you see is fire.
    Well, maybe.
    President Trumpís eldest son said Sunday that there was more to his meeting with a Russian lawyer last year than previously acknowledged, prompting fresh speculation about Trump campaign intrigue with the Kremlin.

    In a startling switch, however, Donald Trump Jr. said the lawyer claimed Russia was working to help Hillary Clintonís campaign.

    When the New York Times first reported the meeting Saturday, the younger Mr. Trump issued a statement saying the meeting was focused mainly on a discontinued program for U.S. adoptions of Russian children.
    He issued a new statement Sunday, acknowledging the meeting was set up by an acquaintance he knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow who said the lawyer might have information helpful to the Trump campaign.

    The meeting in June 2016 with a lawyer with Kremlin ties, who was later identified as Natalia Veselnitskaya, was also attended by Mr. Trumpís son-in-law and top advisor Jared Kushner and Trump campaign chairman Paul J. Manafort.

    The younger Mr. Trump said that during the meeting Ms. Vesenlantskaya claimed to have information that ďindividuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National CommitteeĒ and supporting Clinton.

    ďNo details or supporting information was provided or even offered,Ē the younger Mr. Trump said in a statement. ďIt quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.Ē


    He said no details or supporting information was ever offered, and that his father was unaware of the meeting.

    Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Trumpís legal team, said the president was ďnot aware of and did not attend the meeting.Ē
    At least I'm learning how all those TV "journalists" keep so slim and trim. Their diet is mighty slim on calories.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Tuesday, October 1st, 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 1:08 PM
    Location
    Nashville, Tennessee
    Posts
    10,387
    Post Thanks / Like
    So, some random calls up the campaign and says that they have dirt on Clinton. Campaign meets with this person who in no way represents herself as having anything to do with the Russian government, and who, instead of having the promised oppo, launches into some screed about adoption rules. Campaign people tell her to get lost.

    And this is your "scandal?"


    Good grief. You people are even more desperate than I thought.
    The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in ďMetcalfe's lawĒĖwhich states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the square of the number of participantsĖbecomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's.

    ~ Paul Krugman, 1998

  8. Likes JB, scott, 80zephyr liked this post
  9. #8
    Join Date
    Wednesday, October 2nd, 2013
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Fort Worth, TX
    Posts
    8,013
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    So, some random calls up the campaign and says that they have dirt on Clinton. Campaign meets with this person who in no way represents herself as having anything to do with the Russian government, and who, instead of having the promised oppo, launches into some screed about adoption rules. Campaign people tell her to get lost.

    And this is your "scandal?"


    Good grief. You people are even more desperate than I thought.
    This is your go to every time something comes out which casts the Trump administration or campaign in an unfavorable light with regards to Russia. Almost verbatim. You long ago passed from healthy skepticism to nakedly partisan.

    What is odd is I never really bought the "collusion" thing nor the obstruction and perjury and all that. More and more, I am beginning to think I may have been in error.
    Last edited by Billy Jingo; Monday, July 10th, 2017 at 2:39 PM.
    .

    "The fundamental driver of Western civilization is the agreement that objective reality exists, that people of goodwill can perceive it and that other people will change their views when presented with the facts of the matter."

    ~ From Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom by Thomas E. Ricks

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Wednesday, October 2nd, 2013
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Fort Worth, TX
    Posts
    8,013
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    Well, maybe.
    Oh, no doubt propaganda outlets like Washington Times are doing damage control. But thanks for the heads up.
    .

    "The fundamental driver of Western civilization is the agreement that objective reality exists, that people of goodwill can perceive it and that other people will change their views when presented with the facts of the matter."

    ~ From Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom by Thomas E. Ricks

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Saturday, January 3rd, 2015
    Last Online
    Today @ 6:35 PM
    Posts
    5,657
    Post Thanks / Like
    Lets look at this situation logically. Unless Trump actually knew the person he met, does anyone here REALLY believe that Trump or a complete stranger to him would even broach the subject of colluding with each other?

    And then, lets say they did. Just what could the Russians do for Trump to help him get elected?

    Mark
    Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

    "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

    Political correctness is ideological fascism. Itís the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

    Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •